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Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:34 am to Street Hawk
Is this why we had to show demographically adjusted scores?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:36 am to Warfarer
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I keep reading how the majority of public schools around Chicago are basically illiterate but this map shows they are close to national average.
Same around DC, Baltimore, Philly, Atlanta, etc
I’m wondering if averaging with private and magnet schools is pulling the burgundy to white.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:37 am to lsu777
oh and for the record....US whites and Asians are not behind other countries and our education system is not failing as so many want you to believe
all you have to do is look at scores of different ethnic groups in America and compare to other countries
and for some reason we have a problem admitting this. all the AI apps will give you a bunch of reasons why this might not apply before finally giving you the numbers if you ask for median IQ by race for America
all you have to do is look at scores of different ethnic groups in America and compare to other countries
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White American students outperform all White countries on the PISA exam, and even outperform South Koreans. Asian Americans outperform all Asian groups except Hong Kong. It’s simply false to say American educational outcomes are bad.
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U.S. Asians are doing better than even Singaporians. U.S. Whites are doing great compared to other countries. U.S. overall scores lower because there are many low-scoring Blacks and Hispanics, not because of some crisis.
and for some reason we have a problem admitting this. all the AI apps will give you a bunch of reasons why this might not apply before finally giving you the numbers if you ask for median IQ by race for America
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Asian Americans: 105-110
White Americans: 100-105
Hispanic Americans: 90-95
African Americans: 85-90
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:39 am to Jason9782003
quote:rez area if I were to guess
What's up with that small purple area in NW Minnesota? Is that where Prince and Kirby Puckett live?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:39 am to GumboPot
quote:Huh that's crazy. It's almost like there's a demographic that doesn't value education, always votes democrat and is really good at basketball.
Southeast looks like CFB and college basketball recruiting map. And a Democrat Party voting map.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:39 am to Street Hawk
At a National level, private vs public. Grade 12 there wasn't a large enough sample size for private, but quite a difference. The difference is consistent in every subject with the exception of Writing, where the difference starts out smaller and then increases.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps writing is something that requires consistent practice, and as public school kids age they get less and less push to write essays. The difference in value is small enough.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 7:45 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:42 am to lsu777
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averageby lsu777
Do you have links to your quotes?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:43 am to Solo Cam
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Huh that's crazy. It's almost like there's a demographic that doesn't value education, always votes democrat and is really good at basketball.
Damn Serbians
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:46 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Do you have links to your quotes?
no it was just post on X by people looking at the data from the chart. I was just showing it wasnt my words sorry
but the data is the data on the chart and all the quotes are doing is a summarization of that data
but you can google PISA exam results broken down by country and race and see the results.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 7:48 am
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:00 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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compared to other midwestern states, michigan has a lot of purple in extremely white areas. interesting.
Numbers in SE Michigan, ie, Detroit, were being doctored 30 years ago. Probably not any different now. Ex was a HS teacher there. I helped her grade English papers and journalism class work occasionally. It was completely unreadable, but the HS's scores on state testing were "just fine". The teacher's union's power in MI is exceeded only by that of the UAW.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:02 am to Street Hawk
Map is racist. Why do the areas with higher black populations have lower scores?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:06 am to Hobie101
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Almost all of LA, MS and AL are below average. When did they become blue states?
Those states have the highest percentage of blacks, who tend to have the lowest test scores and the highest likelihood of being a registered Democrat.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:12 am to Ash Williams
Did you finish high school?
Posted on 4/9/25 at 9:50 am to TheHarahanian
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Same around DC, Baltimore, Philly, Atlanta, etc
I’m wondering if averaging with private and magnet schools is pulling the burgundy to white.
Its because the suburbs around those places are lily white and wealthy. I know a lot of you get your perception of everything you see on the news but metro Chicago and Atlanta actually have a higher percentage of whites than most of Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:00 am to Street Hawk
I'm in St Charles Parish!!! I see green!! Woo Hoo!! Suck it losers!
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:13 am to Limitlesstigers
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Its because the suburbs around those places are lily white and wealthy.
I know. I lived in the suburbs of Atlanta.
But I think the granularity of the map would show the suburbs with different coloring than the inner city instead of averaging them. I guess not.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:22 am to Street Hawk
in the process of moving to that tiny tiny green dot in north Shelby CO AL 
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:25 am to parrothead
South Carolina is rough.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:34 am to Warfarer
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I keep reading how the majority of public schools around Chicago are basically illiterate but this map shows they are close to national average.
More likely it means the national average is basically illiterate.
What's interesting is how much certain state policies do make a difference though regardless of demographics.
Many areas with same demographics but vastly different results along the state lines like the Virginia & Maryland borders with West Virginia or the Florida/Alabama border.
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