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re: Audit says EBR Council on Aging may have broken state, federal election laws
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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still can't believe all the press conferences and shite they did when the original will story broke
I can. It's straight from their playbook. Immediately condemn or defend before any of the pertinent facts are known. The condemning or defending is determined strictly by political affiliation, profession, or race.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 11:04 am
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:00 am to upgrayedd
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because she works a flexible
schedule, and her timesheets don’t always reflect the actual hours that she works
How convenient
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:02 am to upgrayedd
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The Lawd knows how much I worked and that's the only thing that counts for I trust in his name!
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:02 am to Deactived
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How convenient
It's how they'll circumvent the election rules violations. They knew what they were doing there from jump street.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:03 am to tigerpimpbot
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Silence is not their strong suit
Oh yes it is. Look no further than Trudy White releasing the convicted child rapist before his mandatory life imprisonment sentence
"No Justice, No Peace"
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:05 am to upgrayedd
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There are a few ways to interpret that statement
I interpret that as she gets paid for 40 hours a week but probably works (significantly) less.
I mean, to be fair so do I. And 2 hours a day or so I spend on TD.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:08 am to Drunken Crawfish
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And 2 hours a day or so I spend on TD.
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Drunken Crawfish
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 11:50 am to terd ferguson
In the emails, the CFO specifically asks someone to erase the date of the decision not to pay overtime to salaried employees. Whoever it was (some hyphenated name) only erased the actual date. The CFO replied saying, "No, erase the entire line because it would look suspicious if it were blank".
IIRC, original decision not to pay overtime was in 2012. CFO sent emails asking to amend document AFTER the flood. The document was in place before the flood. They decided after the flood that they wanted salaried employees to get paid "overtime", aka another 40hrs/wk,so they went back, amended the 2012 document, and submitted it to FEMA afterwards so they could get overtime monies
IIRC, original decision not to pay overtime was in 2012. CFO sent emails asking to amend document AFTER the flood. The document was in place before the flood. They decided after the flood that they wanted salaried employees to get paid "overtime", aka another 40hrs/wk,so they went back, amended the 2012 document, and submitted it to FEMA afterwards so they could get overtime monies
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:13 pm to Hammertime
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IIRC, original decision not to pay overtime was in 2012. CFO sent emails asking to amend document AFTER the flood. The document was in place before the flood. They decided after the flood that they wanted salaried employees to get paid "overtime", aka another 40hrs/wk,so they went back, amended the 2012 document, and submitted it to FEMA afterwards so they could get overtime monies
I'm not sure if them receiving overtime pay from FEMA would even be considered an issue due to the fact that it wasn't money that came from the COA budget. The changing of COA policy to retroactively justify the payment is the issue at hand. That's a pretty big deal.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:25 pm to upgrayedd
At the end of the day, nobody is saying that the EBRCOA's mission isn't a noble one. We can all agree that the services their existence is designed around providing are critical to ensuring that our seniors in this community get what they need when they're more apt to need it at their ages.
But why defend a person to the detriment of the Agency? If the mission is so easy to be supportive of then why not step aside and stop being a negative distraction to the implementation of it? Why is this one person so important to this NGO that all of their local, state & federal law-breaking (intentional or otherwise) along with all of their potential criminal activity (within the purview of their actual job) can be overlooked and excused away with unseemly and ill-conceived ideas about what was really going on?
Why is it that someone like Mrs. Plummer's family was blamed for a lack of family accountability when it came time to excuse the EBR COA CEO's actions with respect to their grandmother's will, and yet everyone else but the EBR COA CEO herself is being asked to shoulder blame while she shirks accountability for her own actions regarding the millage issue and other issues surrounding the agency she leads?
Why is it not okay to ignore an old lady (which is what is alleged by folks like Gary Chambers on the part of the Plummer Family) to allow the EBR COA CEO's actions, but it's absolutely okay to ignore local, state & federal policies and laws-along with internal agency and employer-related policies and procedures-during the course of your own job when it comes to allowing the same EBR COA CEO's actions that are the subject of the audit?
The double standard that seems to be at play here makes no sense.
But why defend a person to the detriment of the Agency? If the mission is so easy to be supportive of then why not step aside and stop being a negative distraction to the implementation of it? Why is this one person so important to this NGO that all of their local, state & federal law-breaking (intentional or otherwise) along with all of their potential criminal activity (within the purview of their actual job) can be overlooked and excused away with unseemly and ill-conceived ideas about what was really going on?
Why is it that someone like Mrs. Plummer's family was blamed for a lack of family accountability when it came time to excuse the EBR COA CEO's actions with respect to their grandmother's will, and yet everyone else but the EBR COA CEO herself is being asked to shoulder blame while she shirks accountability for her own actions regarding the millage issue and other issues surrounding the agency she leads?
Why is it not okay to ignore an old lady (which is what is alleged by folks like Gary Chambers on the part of the Plummer Family) to allow the EBR COA CEO's actions, but it's absolutely okay to ignore local, state & federal policies and laws-along with internal agency and employer-related policies and procedures-during the course of your own job when it comes to allowing the same EBR COA CEO's actions that are the subject of the audit?
The double standard that seems to be at play here makes no sense.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:31 pm to GFunk
You have to look at this from a very basic point of view.
1. They think that once you're in power, you get to do whatever you want because that's their perception of what white people do.
2. They come from a culture where personal responsibility is not a thing. It is always someone else's fault no matter the issue. TCA and DJ wrote themselves into client's will as the executor of the estate and when they got called out on that blatant COI, they cried racism despite the fact that the person calling them out on it was black.
1. They think that once you're in power, you get to do whatever you want because that's their perception of what white people do.
2. They come from a culture where personal responsibility is not a thing. It is always someone else's fault no matter the issue. TCA and DJ wrote themselves into client's will as the executor of the estate and when they got called out on that blatant COI, they cried racism despite the fact that the person calling them out on it was black.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:35 pm to upgrayedd
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TCA and DJ wrote themselves into client's will as the executor of the estate and when they got called out on that blatant COI, they cried racism despite the fact that the person calling them out on it was black.
and the person who was breaking the story wasn't white, either
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:37 pm to upgrayedd
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I'm not sure if them receiving overtime pay from FEMA would even be considered an issue due to the fact that it wasn't money that came from the COA budget
It would, because they violated their policies by paying OT during a period when those employees were ineligible to receive OT. You can change policies like that retroactively.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:41 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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It would, because they violated the bylaws by paying OT during a period when those employees were ineligible to receive OT.
Possibly, but it was straight time from a different fund. Not saying they would've gotten away with it but there certainly would've been some leniency provided to them due to the fact that it was possibly the worst natural disaster to hit BR.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:43 pm to upgrayedd
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Possibly, but it was straight time from a different fund. Not saying they would've gotten away with it but there certainly would've been some leniency provided to them due to the fact that it was possibly the worst natural disaster to hit BR.
None of that matters. Most competent agencies have contingencies in their policies for critical personnel during declared emergencies. They did not.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:44 pm to upgrayedd
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upgrayedd
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You have to look at this from a very basic point of view.
1. They think that once you're in power, you get to do whatever you want because that's their perception of what white people do.
2. They come from a culture where personal responsibility is not a thing. It is always someone else's fault no matter the issue. TCA and DJ wrote themselves into client's will as the executor of the estate and when they got called out on that blatant COI, they cried racism despite the fact that the person calling them out on it was black.
#2 doesn't interest me as much. Simply because it's going to get into a back-and-forth that I honestly believe this country may never move away from fully. Engaging in it is pointless and will never ensure that anyone moves past it or on from it IMO.
If you agree with #2, a huge segment of the community rightfully or wrongly labels that agreement an indication of being a racist. If you disagree with #2 one look like they're denying reality. Either way it's a lose/lose.
So let's focus on #1 which where I think most folks can exist and discuss. I agree with the basic premise. The EBR COA CEO must be an incredibly powerful and/or connected person to garner this much support from across the spectrum of her political base. It's amazing that a decision can't be made to cut bait and retrench. Especially with the power structure in the City Parish skewed towards that same political base.
I guess I'm confused about the cult of personality wherein the person is more important than the agency itself. The Mayor and the Board could easily find a replacement whose like-minded and would continue to operate in a manner congruent to their own goals and desires it seems.
Now I understand the political protection and patronage angle thanks to the family tree at play here. But is that angle that powerful that they wouldn't just fade heat and move on with someone they knew would go along to get along with them?
I guess I'm just surprised that the EBR COA CEO is so heavily protected. It speaks to the person protecting her and their stroke in the community. But what it really speaks to is the agency itself and how much of a black eye this is. Their mission is taken away from every instant we're talking about them.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:44 pm to ell_13
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During a hearing Wednesday morning that Amar did not attend, Smith said he saw no evidence that the Plummer family was harassing Amar at home or at work. Amar's attorney, Charlotte McDaniel McGehee, said Amar has received threatening emails from people who read about the Plummer ordeal in the news. But the emails did not come from the Plummer family itself.
you have got to be fricking shitting me
i'd file for sanctions against the filing attorney if that's his primary argument
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Amar's legal team now has the option to try to file another temporary restraining order in state court with their defamation lawsuit, which was filed April 27. The defamation lawsuit was assigned to Judge Janice Clark, who is Amar's mother, but Amar and her attorney said they expect Clark to recuse herself.
As of Wednesday morning, the case's court documents still said they were assigned to Clark.
i cannot believe this either. it's been reported, for about a week. even if the judge hasn't received any documents on the case, she has to know about the obvious conflict and should have recused herself the day after it made news
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:46 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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None of that matters. Most competent agencies have contingencies in their policies for critical personnel during declared emergencies. They did not.
You may be correct. I'm just spit balling here.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:48 pm to GFunk
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I guess I'm just surprised that the EBR COA CEO is so heavily protected. It speaks to the person protecting her and their stroke in the community. But what it really speaks to is the agency itself and how much of a black eye this is. Their mission is taken away from every instant we're talking about them.
She's very politically connected (mother is a city judge) so they see her as a very strong ally for their future operations.
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