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re: Attempt for Birmingham to annex all of Jefferson County
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:24 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:24 pm to Ramblin Wreck
This has always been a Leftist wet dream. The fact is that the only thing holding the metro area together is the fact that we have numerous independent, well run, prosperous suburbs. If the metro area were combined, it would be a failing blue city.
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:35 pm to armytiger96
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Once the city-parish gov't goes away does parish wide infrastructure projects go way with it?
Things mutually beneficial would be easy to fund. Why should BR proper or St George give a frick about an expressway to Central?
Can't have it both ways.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:54 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Isn’t Hoover, and maybe others, in Shelby County and they are trying to annex Jefferson County? But yes, those cities mentioned would raise hell, rightfully so. Birmingham is a different beast compared to the likes of those suburban cities.
ETA: spelling
ETA: spelling
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:58 pm to SwampGar
No one is doing anything. This hasn't been a thing for 50+ years, and there is no appetite for it any more.
And yes, some cities (Hoover and even Bham) are partly in Shelby County.
And yes, some cities (Hoover and even Bham) are partly in Shelby County.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:58 pm to TIGERHOLD
How’d Hoover poop the bed? It was once following Vestavia’s footsteps?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 5:59 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Don't
-BR/EBRP
-BR/EBRP
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:03 pm to SwampGar
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Isn’t Hoover, and maybe others, in Shelby County and they are trying to annex Jefferson County? But yes, those cities mentioned would raise hell, rightfully so. Birmingham is a different beast compared to the likes of those suburban cities.
The initiative was in the early 1970’s, not recently. A lot of the suburbs have grown into Shelby County (Trussville, Hoover). Today is a different climate with Birmingham, but I thought the discussion on benefits or downfall to a parish / county wide government would be interesting.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:07 pm to Dixie2023
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How’d Hoover poop the bed? It was once following Vestavia’s footsteps?
It hasn’t.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:08 pm to Dixie2023
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I don’t think B’ham could ever get Mountain Brook and Vestavia.
Some of the more well to do whites might be liberal enough to fall for it.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:09 pm to Ramblin Wreck
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Could you imagine the City of Birmingham controlling Mountain Brook, Homewood, Vestavia Hills, Hoover, Trussville, etc.?
Yeah. They'd all be shitty ruins today too. The suburbs should fall down on their knees and thank God that it never went anywhere, considering who took political control of Birmingham.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:13 pm to fightin tigers
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Why should BR proper or St George give a frick about an expressway to Central?
I don't know . . . maybe to move traffic through the parish more efficiently. You're right no one from BR or St George benefits from the Central Throughway.
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Can't have it both ways.
Exactly, which is why all of this squabbling and BS rhetoric will be to the detriment to us all.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:15 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Geographically the largest city in the United States/
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:24 pm to PsychTiger
That’s crazy. Great schools and property values/neighborhoods/communities. I guess if that’s what they want more power to them, eh?
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:27 pm to Dixie2023
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How’d Hoover poop the bed?
In part by building a bunch of apartments. You can use your imagination as to what that attracted.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:31 pm to PSS101
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Birmingham is a sinking ship. The suburbs there are fine
That is a problem. The suburbs need the main city to be good also. Nashville got it right when they incorporated the entire County. St Louis has the same problem.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:36 pm to Auburn80
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The suburbs need the main city to be good also.
It helps but it can also drag the suburbs down. There are some gorgeous old homes on Red Mountain overlooking the city but if you drive a short distance, it looks like a garbage drop off point. You won’t find that in similar value home areas in the suburbs.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:37 pm to Dixie2023
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How’d Hoover poop the bed? It was once following Vestavia’s footsteps?
The other guy nailed it. Apartments and high-density garbage (townhouses, rental communities etc) shoved in everywhere. All thanks to a city council that was probably paid off by some crooked developers. Now we can look forward to more apartments going where the galleria is. Eventually the apartments reach a critical mass and swallow up an area with the lovely folks they bring in. Everyone forgets New Orleans East was once like Hoover until the apartments went in.
Vestavia has notably taken a different tack by building liberty park. That’s been a runaway success story and does not have apartments.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:51 pm to Dixie2023
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I don’t think B’ham could ever get Mountain Brook and Vestavia.
You are exactly right. Mountain Brook would die on this hill and I’d be right there with them. Property values would plummet and the school system that makes this area so great, would fall off. In all reality they want Jefferson County’s money since their current areas are crap.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:56 pm to TIGERHOLD
Sorry to see that. Good Vestavia didn’t.
Posted on 6/2/26 at 6:56 pm to Auburn80
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The suburbs need the main city to be good also.
This is going to make half this boards head explode!
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