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re: At what point do we stop focusing on the flattening curve idea
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:09 am to BuckeyeFan87
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:09 am to BuckeyeFan87
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The death rate is currently low because it has just started and hospitals aren’t overwhelmed yet
The death rate could be artificially high because lack of testing out of necessity or capability.
What is 100% certain is substantial economic deterioration from the shutdown that in the long term could easily result in more devastation and deaths than this virus.
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:13 am to dsides
quote:So it's 100% certain that something might happen?
What is 100% certain is substantial economic deterioration from the shutdown that in the long term could easily result in more devastation and deaths than this virus.
I can just as easily say it is 100% certain that what you said won't happen to that degree, so...
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:15 am to shel311
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So it's 100% certain that something might happen?
It’s 100% certain our economy will suffer with the shutdown....
It might result in more deaths than the virus.
Try to keep up.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:19 am to dsides
quote:It's also 100% certain that the shutdown might result in less deaths than the virus.
It’s 100% certain our economy will suffer with the shutdown....
It might result in more deaths than the virus.
Try to keep up.
quote:You literally just clarified your remark, easy with the "try to keep up" stuff when you essentially conceded your initial remark wasn't very clear.
Try to keep up.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:20 am
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:29 am to tom
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Ruining the economy to "flatten the curve" for a virus that is basically the flu is going to go down as one of the dumbest ideas in history.
This. The horses left the barn weeks earlier than anyone knew and these "flattening the curve" idiots think shutting the doors now is going to help. It isn't. What's worse is in a month or two, when this is little more than a background nuisance, these same idiots will be patting themselves on the back thinking they accomplished something.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:32 am to Clames
Damn dude why hasn't trump tapped you to lead our response to this?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:35 am to Clames
I have no idea if all this flattening the curve stuff is gonna work now, you know...because I'm not an epidemiologist. But I am fricking sick of people who have no idea touting this and acting like thier posts are saving the world and scolding anyone who disagrees. This shite is tailor made for slactivism...a time when you can canonize yourself for staying on the couch and encouraging others to do the same.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:36 am to Clames
quote:You think this would basically go away in a month if we did nothing?
This. The horses left the barn weeks earlier than anyone knew and these "flattening the curve" idiots think shutting the doors now is going to help. It isn't. What's worse is in a month or two, when this is little more than a background nuisance, these same idiots will be patting themselves on the back thinking they accomplished something.
Bless your naive little heart.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:39 am to scott8811
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This shite is tailor made for slactivism
Slactivism in this scenario would be NOT staying on the couch
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:44 am to uway
quote:I don't get this. If some hospitals could be overrun, then wouldn't all this be done so we can hopefully not have hospitals overrun?
I think it's 100% about avoiding taking the blame for some hospitals being overrun.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:46 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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If we can reduce the peak of the curve, we can reduce the number of cases.
I am very much in the fully support the measures being taken and flatten the curve camp but you are misunderstanding the Curve.
We cannot stop this thing from spreading, we can only slow it down. The whole point of flattening the curve is to make sure that everyone in the country doesn't get sick at once and therefore flood the hospitals.
We have a finite amount of medical professionals and hospital beds in this country and we need to make sure that people are getting sick at a rate that is slow enough that we don't overload the hospitals.
In Italy they are making decisions over who gets treated who gets sent home to die because they don't have enough space in the hospital space to deal with this thing.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:47 am to Pintail
I was talking to an old pathologist this morning who had some interesting insights on all of this.
He thinks that the state of emergency is fine in limited doses but he thinks that we should isolate based on those most at risk.....65 and older with COPD especially. But he said that the travel ban is smart and probably should have been instituted by the first week of January, if not earlier because we knew about it.
I found the most interesting thing he said was that the travel ban on both sides of the continent will helo us more than you think. If you don't have unfettered travel you can control who comes in easier. He actually thought we should leave everyone over there. The oceans are our best defense because of the distances and the fact that it is salt water. Shut down everything coming in from Asia and Europe and convince the Mexicans and Brazilians to do the same and in the case of China cut em off completely for 5 years. We can then control the Southern border easier with the help of the Mexicans that we make deals with.
Kind of a left field idea overall, but I thought there was some merit to the idea.....Pathologists think outside the box generally.
He thinks that the state of emergency is fine in limited doses but he thinks that we should isolate based on those most at risk.....65 and older with COPD especially. But he said that the travel ban is smart and probably should have been instituted by the first week of January, if not earlier because we knew about it.
I found the most interesting thing he said was that the travel ban on both sides of the continent will helo us more than you think. If you don't have unfettered travel you can control who comes in easier. He actually thought we should leave everyone over there. The oceans are our best defense because of the distances and the fact that it is salt water. Shut down everything coming in from Asia and Europe and convince the Mexicans and Brazilians to do the same and in the case of China cut em off completely for 5 years. We can then control the Southern border easier with the help of the Mexicans that we make deals with.
Kind of a left field idea overall, but I thought there was some merit to the idea.....Pathologists think outside the box generally.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:53 am to ashy larry
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Put me in the group of people that would accept inconveniences in order to save 50k people.
Send this country into a depression and the suicides will top the corona “saves”.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:54 am to shel311
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You think this would basically go away in a month if we did nothing?
I think this has been around for a month longer than anyone realized and you pearl-clutching loons are that much late and more than a few dollars short.
quote:
Bless your naive little heart.
Something you should say while looking in the mirror.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:09 pm to shel311
According to the World Health Organization, 80% of people who contact COVID-19 will experience flu-like symptoms and recover at home in 1-2 weeks with bed rest and fluids.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:33 pm to Clames
quote:You think this would basically go away in a month if we did nothing? Yes or no...
I think this has been around for a month longer than anyone realized and you pearl-clutching loons are that much late and more than a few dollars short.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 12:34 pm to Lou
quote:Ok?
According to the World Health Organization, 80% of people who contact COVID-19 will experience flu-like symptoms and recover at home in 1-2 weeks with bed rest and fluids.
And the other 20%?
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