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At N.Y.U., Students Were Failing Organic Chemistry. Who Was to Blame?

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In the field of organic chemistry, Maitland Jones Jr. has a storied reputation. He taught the subject for decades, first at Princeton and then at New York University, and wrote an influential textbook. He received awards for his teaching, as well as recognition as one of N.Y.U.’s coolest professors.

But last spring, as the campus emerged from pandemic restrictions, 82 of his 350 students signed a petition against him.

Students said the high-stakes course — notorious for ending many a dream of medical school — was too hard, blaming Dr. Jones for their poor test scores.

The professor defended his standards. But just before the start of the fall semester, university deans terminated Dr. Jones’s contract.

The officials also had tried to placate the students by offering to review their grades and allowing them to withdraw from the class retroactively. The chemistry department’s chairman, Mark E. Tuckerman, said the unusual offer to withdraw was a “one-time exception granted to students by the dean of the college.”

Marc A. Walters, director of undergraduate studies in the chemistry department, summed up the situation in an email to Dr. Jones, before his firing.

He said the plan would “extend a gentle but firm hand to the students and those who pay the tuition bills,” an apparent reference to parents.

The university’s handling of the petition provoked equal and opposite reactions from both the chemistry faculty, who protested the decisions, and pro-Jones students, who sent glowing letters of endorsement.

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Dr. Jones




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But just before the start of the fall semester, university deans terminated Dr. Jones’s contract.


Some of these students are possible future doctors.

Well that was smart.


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Harry Morgan
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Increasing the dumbing down and pussification of America.

Another generation of participation trophy soy fricks.


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DLSWVA
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That is pathetic. How dare someone try to hold students accountable? We are doomed.


Motorboat
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Organic chemistry was the hardest class I ever took three times. Kept me from medical or dental school.


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You know what’s else is hard kids, life. Also sometimes Oldmanbeasley’s penis in the proper setting.


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Diseasefreeforall
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1. Organic chemistry is damn hard.

2. A chemistry class grading on a brutal curve to weed out medical students is a time-honored tradition in academia. As a geology student I got caught in one my freshman year.

3. Suck it up buttercups.
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He said the plan would “extend a gentle but firm hand to the students and those who pay the tuition bills,” an apparent reference to parents.


Translation: college is about making money, not enforcing standards, and we don't make money if we kick out our students.


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Students said the high-stakes course — notorious for ending many a dream of medical school — was too hard, blaming Dr. Jones for their poor test scores.

The professor defended his standards. But just before the start of the fall semester, university deans terminated Dr. Jones’s contract.


This class is a weed out course at LSU. And LSU wouldn't ditch a faculty member for this kind of shite.

This is pathetic coming out of NYU. If you can't pass the course, find a remedial class to take, study harder, or get a tutor.


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ThatMakesSense
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I got an A in organic. The only thing I withdrew from at LSU was some trig class. frick that nonsense.


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Where is the blame on the government officials who shutdown these schools? Unless you were over 80 or had some serious preexisting conditions you were never in any danger of dying.

All for a cold.


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shutterspeed
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This class is a weed out course at LSU. And LSU wouldn't ditch a faculty member for this kind of shite.


Yet.


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In the field of organic chemistry, Maitland Jones Jr. has a storied reputation. He taught the subject for decades, first at Princeton and then at New York University, and wrote an influential textbook. He received awards for his teaching, as well as recognition as one of N.Y.U.’s coolest professors.

But last spring, as the campus emerged from pandemic restrictions, 82 of his 350 students signed a petition against him.

Students said the high-stakes course — notorious for ending many a dream of medical school — was too hard, blaming Dr. Jones for their poor test scores.

The professor defended his standards. But just before the start of the fall semester, university deans terminated Dr. Jones’s contract.




Keep in mind, it took 500 years to get to Dr. Lexus. This kind of story is how it got started...

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Organic chemistry may be hard but medical school is harder. These pussies are in for a rude awakening


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NYU is the most expensive college in America (or was in the recent past)



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This class is a weed out course at LSU. And LSU wouldn't ditch a faculty member for this kind of shite.

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Yet.


Correct. The more that potato ruins the economy, the slimmer access to dollars becomes, and the standards will go down like a gump girl on fambly night.

ETA: Do the downvote queers really like potatoes, or fighting for their sister's honor? Now, get back in the pile.
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HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Somebody’s daddy makes a ton of money and coddles their kid (enrolled in that class).



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bubbaprohn
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My wife would probably love to have him as a professor. She is currently taking Organic Chemistry II and her professor doesn't even teach anything. He gives a "lecture" once a week and doesn't even go over what all will be tested on. My wife is pretty much teaching herself organic chemistry from the book/material she finds online. I can only imagine how happy she would be having a professor who actually teaches it, regardless of how hard he makes the tests.


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I got an A in organic.


So did the entire OT.


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