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re: At N.Y.U., Students Were Failing Organic Chemistry. Who Was to Blame?

Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:59 am to
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4086 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:59 am to
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Dynamics & Thermodynamics


And the pre-med bunch thinks some rote chemistry class is hard. It isn’t like they have to develop the field of chemistry from scratch.

You know what else is funny? The post-med bunch will be really dissatisfied with their W-2 status and never ending Audi loan.
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
32137 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:42 am to
Organic is supposed to be hard. I hate to see them in Biochem if they can’t hack Organic.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66001 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:45 am to
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Students said the high-stakes course — notorious for ending many a dream of medical school — was too hard


is chemistry supposed to be easy?

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blaming Dr. Jones for their poor test scores


yep, gotta be someone else's fault.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 7:48 am
Posted by Nola1962
Member since Jul 2020
183 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:45 am to
Organic chemistry is designed to weed out those students who are not cut put to be in the medical field. Remember this when one of these individuals is practicing medicine.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
3754 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:47 am to
Pathetic. When I took Organic I actually studied, went to class and took every practice test I could find. This constant caving to feelings of kids will not end well for society.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71424 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:48 am to
Isn't this why tenure is a thing?
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
5889 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:49 am to
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chemistry class grading on a brutal curve to weed out medical students is a time-honored tradition in academia.


All majors have one of these filter classes. There was one in my undergrad degree that was notoriously difficult, to the point where the professor gave everyone numbers, not names. He didn't know your name until you passed.

We could take it twice, but if you had a C or less, you were told to change majors.

Props, Mr Fisher.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66001 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:49 am to
who wants a doctor who needed standards lowered to be able to pass?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:52 am to
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But last spring, as the campus emerged from pandemic restrictions, 82 of his 350 students signed a petition against him.


NYU? Probably had a question on X and Y chromosomes and the liberals got offended and triggered by "misgendering" science.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:53 am to
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who wants a doctor who needed standards lowered to be able to pass?


This day and age, if you want to survive a Dr.'s visit, don't see a dr. under the age of 50.
Posted by PappaSwolio
tGeneral’s Army
Member since Sep 2022
901 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:40 am to
I failed organic chemistry twice before I had to take it over the summer. Had 6 A’s and an F in organic for two semesters.

Our professor’s thought is that the class should be difficult enough to weed out those who aren’t serious about going to get a doctorate degree in a medical field
Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
887 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:45 am to
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82 of his 350 students signed a petition against him.


That is not even a majority.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 8:52 am to
Posted by BBBBE
outback
Member since Jan 2016
89 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 11:54 am to
Morrison and Boyd. Professor told the class the first day "If you are a ChemE major do not waste my time trying to talk to me." Years later he said to me his job was to weed out the students that should not be.
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