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re: As Covid-19 Vaccines Raise Hope, Cold Reality Dawns That Illness Is Likely Here to Stay

Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:57 pm to
What about that statement is wrong?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:58 pm to
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Cold Reality


ISWTDT
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14579 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:00 pm to
The flu is here to stay.



P.S. you're a pussy
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:01 pm to
That should have been obvious in the first month or two of the pandemic. And it's why the lockdown approaches of certain states and countries were so goddamn stupid.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77914 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:01 pm to
Don’t patronize me
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50249 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:01 pm to
Oh put a sock in it
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7800 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:04 pm to
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should have been obvious in first month or two


Exactly.
A bunch of Baws, Engineers, some Drs etc on the fricking OT knew this.
A decent number of us were saying this in March. By early May it was general consensus that we just had to "sack the frick up and deal with it".
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:04 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:04 pm to
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They're eventually going to have to admit it's just a cold virus.


It is obviously a cold-inducing virus but is relatively fairly deadly - relative to what we think of as normal cold viruses - in a naive population.

What you haven't seen a lot written about is that the same thing probably happened in the past with every new cold virus that was introduced into the human population - an initial burst that wiped out more than its fair share of people in the first few waves then settled into background noise. The only difference now are demographics (we are much older and much fatter than we were for the first couple hundred thousand years of human history) and the ability to monitor.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:05 pm to
So you cant answer


How shocking
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27205 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:07 pm to
15 years to flatten the curve
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77914 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:08 pm to
Not if you keep addressing me with that tone.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13512 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:08 pm to
I made the comment nearly a year ago, if we had these kind of protocols when AIDS hit the street it would have been eradicated in no time. But govts didn’t care about gays and blacks.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:10 pm to
It was obvious that it was never going away immediately.

Who in the hell are these people that are so convinced we should have altered the entire way we live our life for this virus?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:13 pm to
Figured
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8587 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

I made the comment nearly a year ago, if we had these kind of protocols when AIDS hit the street it would have been eradicated in no time. But govts didn’t care about gays and blacks.


Funnily enough, much of the initial epidemiological thinking around the virus (the contact tracing schemes, especially) came about from the reaction to AIDS.

That failed fricking miserably because it's a completely different virus with a completely different risk and transmission profile. I am actually pretty optimistic there will be some cool innovations coming out of this in applicable epidemiology as long as the public health nerds who wanted everyone to run away from the virus for months and years on end come to their senses and realize they were wrong.
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:16 pm to
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Vaccination drives hold out the promise of curbing Covid-19, but governments and businesses are increasingly accepting what epidemiologists have long warned: The pathogen will circulate for years, or even decades, leaving society to coexist with Covid-19 much as it does with other endemic diseases like flu, measles, and HIV.


Of course it’s here to stay. There are six other coronaviruses that have been sickening humans for centuries, maybe eons. Hopefully, modern medical technology will give us a universal coronavirus vaccine but we’ll just have to adjust to CV-19 until it does. It’ll mutate continually in the giant human population just as the others do but it won’t go away.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40029 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:16 pm to
Scruffy, did you take the vaccine? Will I have to wear a mask forever? How is the facility wherever you are??
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
77914 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:26 pm to
What do you think won’t return to what it was pre Covid?
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13512 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:31 pm to
It would have been tough with AIDS with the latent period. Simply saying we can’t allow Africans and gays to travel without having proof of negative test wouldn’t have floated.
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