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re: As a parent, what would you do? Cheerleading coach on video forcing girls into splits

Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:10 am to
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:10 am to
I don't think I ever played a sport where a coach didn't do something that someone would call physical abuse.

I remember one day my swim coach made me swim a 1650 yard butterfly because I was a few minutes late to practice. I crawled out of the pool and threw up on the deck. I laid there more worn out than I had ever been. Coach kicked me in the chest then threw me in the pool and made me swim another one.

I loved that man.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:18 am to
I would just like to point out how fine that Denver news anchor was. Damn!

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:21 am to
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And like the other guy said, I can't believe in this day and age that they are allowing an adult male to coach young girls unsupervised. It sucks--especially for all the good male coaches out there--but that is just a dynamic that I'd want to avoid at all costs if I were an admin.

So it sucks that an adult male can coach young girls, but you then also say that there are good male coaches out there?

I don't see anything wrong with any gender coaching any other gender, as long as things are on the up and up and no line are crossed, obviously.


As for this story, I would assume this is how one learns/trains to do splits...keep pushing more and more each time until your body is used to it and it is normal. And as for people bitching about stretching and all of that, do we know that they didn't stretch her before doing this to her? Or is that just an assumption people are making? (asking honestly, because I read the article and didn't see anything mentioned unless I missed it)

I am no cheerleading expert, or a doctor for that matter...and I have no idea if this coach is an idiot or a terrible person...but I would assume that pushing your leg muscles past their points is a prerequisite for learning how to do a split. And hell, it even looked like he (and her teammates) were trying to keep her body straight/balanced and her form correct. That doesn't seem like something you would do if you were trying to hurt someone.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 9:25 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:23 am to
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How do you train your body to do splits? I wanna learn
I'm not a gymnast so I'm not 100% sure, but I know people who are gymnasts and they do many different kinds of stretches every day.

It shouldn't take long to be able to stretch enough to be able to do the splits, so this torture exercise that guy was putting those girls through was completely unnecessary and dangerous.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:23 am to
It wouldn't have taken me 8 fricking months. I understand cheerleaders having to do splits, but there is an extremely firm line between requiring them at tryouts/slowly working into it and just plopping someone down like that.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:25 am to
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So fricking what? You have to do the splits to be cheerleader, either quit...or we'll help you. Yea it hurts, you don't have the will power to stretch like that on your own and suffer incremental pain...so quit or we'll show you what it takes. Get over it.


Yeah, no.

There's actual technique and training to get to the point of being limber enough for the splits. You don't just force them down, tearing muscle/ligaments in the process. That's like saying you should just throw bricks at a kid so he can get used to getting hit in football instead of running actual drills to acclimate him.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150982 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:26 am to
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and just plopping someone down like that.


Again, is that what happened? For all we know, they stretched for 30 minutes before training for splits. Why is everybody assuming this dude just pushed this girl to the ground and started abusing her (in front of a camera and all of her teammates, mind you)..?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:29 am to
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As for this story, I would assume this is how one learns/trains to do splits...keep pushing more and more each time until your body is used to it and it is normal.
That's not how you train to do the splits. Forcing it like that can cause injury.

You stretch every day from many different angles. There is a little bit of pain as there is any time you stretch. But forcing it like this guy was to the point of extreme pain is completely unnecessary, and probably not as effective.
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3183 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 9:56 am to
That grown man was a member of Team USA and a national champion at Louisville. He's also gay. If you're really worried about grown men coaching your daughter, don't put her in any sport then.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5709 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:49 am to
I'd go whip his national champion arse.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:51 am to
My girl would be smart enough and have enough self respect to never want to be a stupid cheerleader so I'll solve that on the front end
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20596 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:51 am to
You stretch every day from many different angles. There is a little bit of pain as there is any time you stretch. But forcing it like this guy was to the point of extreme pain is completely unnecessary, and probably not as effective

It wasn't that forced though, that girl was just a giant wimp. He barely pushed down on her, she was complaining while they weren't even doing anything.

Furthermore she is not freaking close to doing the splits. Honestly, he should have just cut her arse off the team considering those two things.
Posted by phutureisyic
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2016
3372 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:53 am to
Was this their coach?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 10:56 am to
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It wasn't that forced though, that girl was just a giant wimp.


This actually happened with multiple girls.
Posted by Jtigers99
Holly Beach, USA
Member since Dec 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:15 am to
So sad thinking about all those hymens that won't be broken the natural way.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6543 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:15 am to
It's amazing if you look at comments from this story on Facebook or wherever. It's all women saying she's a bad cheerleader and should be able to do it and saying she deserved the bullying she's received.

Women are terrible and that's why they should not be in charge
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:31 am to
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9819 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:11 pm to
Personally I'm glad my cheer coach forced me to do the splits way back when.

However, if I had a problem with a teacher or coach I would not call the news or put it on queer social media outlets. I'd handle it myself, personally and privately.

If you can't meet the requirements for the sport you voluntarily signed up for, pick something else.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51456 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:27 pm to
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If you can't meet the requirements for the sport you voluntarily signed up for, pick something else.


Maybe if the coach would have trained her properly, she would have been able to do splits by now. Instead, on the first week of their summer camp, the coach decided on the course of training that is seen in the video.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9819 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 12:50 pm to


It's common sense that cheerleaders need to be able to do the freaking splits.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 1:14 pm
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