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re: Are people in sales dead inside?
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:51 pm to tgrbaitn08
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You’d starve if you showed up at my office unannounced or without some sort of set appointment beforehand.
I do this daily. The vast majority do speak to me & then I set an appt with a lot of them bc I ask when is a better time to come back. Practically everyone is nice to me. I can count on one hand the times I've had rude encounters and there's only one person who was so ugly that I still share it with others.
When people ask for recommendations for pool builders, I just say don't call Paradise Pools bc the owner is a rude bitch.
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 10:52 pm
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:53 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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You don’t think your interactions with people in sales could be different because you’re a woman?
Speaking for myself, I know that it helps me get in the door.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:54 pm to Rouge
I've been in sales for 35 yrs. I have a nice house in the country with property. My wife hasn't worked outside the home since our first child was born, 32 years ago. We have a comfortable life so you, don't know shite about sales.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:04 pm to bpinson
I love sales
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:04 pm to Aubie Spr96
There were many times I enjoyed sales when I was in it. I didn't have the best people skills, not the bubbly type but I made a point to know my product/service and know my competitors almost better than they did. oh, and return phone calls as quickly as possible. Huge and amazing how many reps didn't do that.
All I asked for was a competitive product or service to sell. Didn't have to have the best one, just something that gave me a chance at getting business. When the markets would change and we trailed the competition by 25 to 50 basis points, then it didn't matter how good you were at sales. Loyal customers would throw a little business your way but send the bulk somewhere else because you simply weren't competitive.
Also, what hurts is being backstabbed by management or corporate HQ. Citi was the worst. heaven help you if you landed a big account at Citi. The powers that be would determine the account was just simply too big for one rep to handle so to help you, Citi would take it off your hands and make it a "house account." Yeah, great incentive to sign up top-producing big clients. Crap like that makes you hate sales. Of course, Citi wouldn't back off your quota when it would take those accounts away either.
All I asked for was a competitive product or service to sell. Didn't have to have the best one, just something that gave me a chance at getting business. When the markets would change and we trailed the competition by 25 to 50 basis points, then it didn't matter how good you were at sales. Loyal customers would throw a little business your way but send the bulk somewhere else because you simply weren't competitive.
Also, what hurts is being backstabbed by management or corporate HQ. Citi was the worst. heaven help you if you landed a big account at Citi. The powers that be would determine the account was just simply too big for one rep to handle so to help you, Citi would take it off your hands and make it a "house account." Yeah, great incentive to sign up top-producing big clients. Crap like that makes you hate sales. Of course, Citi wouldn't back off your quota when it would take those accounts away either.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:10 pm to tigerfoot
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who the hell sells to these types, Cutco?
The item in question was roughly 45k. A luxury.
Of that 45k... 22ish was profit.
I know it doesn't sound like much. But at that point in my life, I was a starving college kid who was enjoying smashing sales records for a local new orleans company. I brought these people in, built rapport, hooked then, and sold them.
And I didn't sleep that night. The buyer's were happy. They got what they wanted at a price they liked. I nearly doubled what was then a record. My boss was astounded.
Later on, those selling skills helped in contract negotiation and bidding... But I've never crossed what I consider to be my line again. Silly?... maybe.
But there's a percentage I keep in my head, it's what I consider fair for all parties. There's a percentage I consider utterly fricking someone over. And I'm only ever willing to do that to someone who comes across as a sleazy sales person.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:16 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
we’re all dead inside
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:32 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
If you are in sales and dead inside I’m confident you are not very successful as a sales person. Successful sales people usually are very good listeners, problem solvers, hard working, genuine, honest and knowledgeable. Over the years your top customers and their families can be some of your closest friends. While it looks easy to some, it takes a lot of work, dedication and determination to develop those traits and you have to learn how to be yourself and be willing to get out of your comfort zone. Early on I travelled with my boss and he recorded our meetings with some customers. I was shocked at how I constantly interrupted and spoke over this Technical Director. I had to practice but eventually I got better or I would have quit or gotten fired.
There are a ton of sales people who are miserable as well as stereotypical drunks, fakes and sleezeballs, but they usually burn out, get fired or get caught in their own lies.
It can be very financially rewarding as well.
There are a ton of sales people who are miserable as well as stereotypical drunks, fakes and sleezeballs, but they usually burn out, get fired or get caught in their own lies.
It can be very financially rewarding as well.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 12:45 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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sales dead inside
Yes, also a low class profession
Posted on 12/27/19 at 4:43 am to TigerOnTheMountain
I’m a supervisor but work along side my manager who is a narcissist. We deal with a lot of salesman and my manager belittles them so bad. Most try so hard to be nice and accommodating but that’s blood in the water for him. I seen one tell him to “ go frick yourself “. My manager tried to get his job and when the company wouldn’t fire him , we canceled our account
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:06 am to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:I know a guy who quit his plant job to become a salesman. He drops his kids off at school every morning and picks them up in the afternoon. He must be miserable making big bucks while working so little.
Are people in sales dead inside?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:13 am to BowDownToLSU
Do you respect this miserable frickhead?? He basically treated the rep in a go frick yourself way so he got an equivalent response then was butthurt. He’s a large pussy
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:17 am to Rouge
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Those who can....do
Those who can't....sell
Lol my job is so good you would cry if I told you
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:57 am to BowDownToLSU
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My manager tried to get his job and when the company wouldn’t fire him , we canceled our account
You’re account obviously wasn’t valuable enough to put up with your manager’s BS. That’s typically the way it is with guys like him. Valuable accounts typically understand the importance of a good partnership and working relationship with the sales representatives.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:08 am to TigerBR1111
I am an account executive, so I am not necessarily selling anything, just more of client management/relations. I enjoy it but i dont exactly LOVE it.
For those who started in sales and then switched, what did you switch your career path to?
For those who started in sales and then switched, what did you switch your career path to?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:43 am to atrain5
I jumped into outside sales after college, in the lab/analyzer field. It's been 12 years and I love it. My wife is able to stay at home, and knocking off early to play with the kids any time I want cannot be replaced. I am the opposite of "dead inside".
I'll add, all you business development specialists, account managers, sales managers, territory managers, and strategic market managers that think you aren't a "salesman" need to own it. My title has changed many times, but I know what I do for a living, I sell.
I'll add, all you business development specialists, account managers, sales managers, territory managers, and strategic market managers that think you aren't a "salesman" need to own it. My title has changed many times, but I know what I do for a living, I sell.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:59 am to LSUAngelHere1
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The vast majority do speak to me & then I set an appt with a lot of them bc I ask when is a better time to come back. Practically everyone is nice to me. I can count on one hand the times I've had rude encounters and there's only one person who was so ugly that I still share it with others.
When people ask for recommendations for pool builders, I just say don't call Paradise Pools bc the owner is a rude bitch.
I didn’t say anything about being rude to the salesman, I’ll sometimes still talk to them, the ones that I’ve been knowing for a long time, but it’s still rude as hell to just show up unannounced or without a call or text or email. A simple, man I’m in your area today, gotta minute for me to stop by? What’s a good time?
Or an introduction email or phone call to set an appointment
Insurance salesmen are the worse. They will show up everyday unannounced
Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:02 am to GFunk
This sounds sad but I never really respected many I’ve met in sales. I’ve dealt with thousands of vendors in a wide range of industries.
I think what I respected most was technical competency. I seemed to always gravitate towards working with those I knew had some credibility with the industry.
I think what I respected most was technical competency. I seemed to always gravitate towards working with those I knew had some credibility with the industry.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:03 am to TigerOnTheMountain
I used to work sales. There was a joke in our company, that said company created alcoholics. It was true, amongst other things. I was making 6 figures yearly while doing it, but it came at a cost. Alcohol, drugs, sex with coworkers. That part sounds fun, but never shite where you eat.
I make significantly less now, but I'm a whole hell of a lot happier.
I make significantly less now, but I'm a whole hell of a lot happier.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 8:05 am to TigerOnTheMountain
I love selling shite. The key is pretend to be friends with your clients. Make yourself available, but not too available.
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