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re: Are HR departments beneficial?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:43 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:43 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Some of you live in such small worlds. A major company would not function without HR.
Recruiters can be incompetent just like any function.
Recruiters can be incompetent just like any function.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:45 pm to lynxcat
What can they do that someone else couldn't do better or cheaper?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:56 pm to Hammertime
Recruit candidates so that employees being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars can focus on their primary duties. This involves identification, scheduling, and contracting.
Training new employees of company policies.
Identifying turnover issues and creating solutions to fix them.
Creating and managing leadership development programs that move people cross functionally potentially across the country or globe.
Handle benefits, payroll questions.
The list is really long and these are a handful of random thoughts coming to mind...
Training new employees of company policies.
Identifying turnover issues and creating solutions to fix them.
Creating and managing leadership development programs that move people cross functionally potentially across the country or globe.
Handle benefits, payroll questions.
The list is really long and these are a handful of random thoughts coming to mind...
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:57 pm to Hammertime
I had it exactly the same. The regional VP gave me an email and number for the HR girl. He told me she would be waiting for me to call. I did.
She had me fill out a 42 page application for a position I was already hired for. It then took three months of background checks. She also would not answer or return messages.
We finally got it done and I went to work for them. Ten weeks later the whole dept. was laid off.
She had me fill out a 42 page application for a position I was already hired for. It then took three months of background checks. She also would not answer or return messages.
We finally got it done and I went to work for them. Ten weeks later the whole dept. was laid off.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:00 pm to Hangit
That is just a bad HR department. Good HR is irreplaceable.
It can let the business focus on growing the business and not worrying about back office process. It also gives a single source of truth for policies and who generates them.
It can let the business focus on growing the business and not worrying about back office process. It also gives a single source of truth for policies and who generates them.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:11 pm to lynxcat
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That is just a bad HR department.
It turns out she was the GF of the RVP's boss. She was a Puerto Rican smoke factory so her lack of skill for anything else was overlooked.
If I had pics I would post them.
They asked me to come back 6 months later. I still do a few things for them but they are bottom tier priority and rates went up.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:15 pm to Hammertime
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They've always been a pain in my arse. I have been dealing with them for the past two months trying to get a new job, and God damn they don't call anyone back. I called one lady probably 10 times over three weeks and left maybe 7 messages. No return phone call. I finally caught her on the 11th call for her to tell me that a company had workers in a position that I knew they didn't. Have been trying to get in touch with, and leaving messages for, another one lately also. The owner of the company even told her I'd be calling, but she won't call back. That's happened multiple times, but never for a company without an HR department.
Sounds like a bad move.
Companies looking for new hires are like women, they sniff out desperation and it turns them off.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:53 pm to Hammertime
HR departments are not there to help you. HR departments exist for one reason and one reason only: to cover the company's arse.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:00 pm to lynxcat
How hard is it to make a job posting online with requirements? Then, have a computer filter the results (which HR depts do anyway)? After that, applicants can interview with the people that they would actually be working with and for?
Make them watch a video
Should be upper management's problem and their solutions will fix it anyway
Should be recognized by management and proceed from there. Someone that isn't a leader shouldn't be able to go through a leadership program and then become a leader.
Easily outsourced
Make them watch a video
Should be upper management's problem and their solutions will fix it anyway
Should be recognized by management and proceed from there. Someone that isn't a leader shouldn't be able to go through a leadership program and then become a leader.
Easily outsourced
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:04 pm to Hammertime
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How hard is it to make a job posting online with requirements?
You obviously have not had to sift through a ton a applications even software can't weed out. This isn't about just hiring, does your company deduct FSA from severance?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:06 pm to Hammertime
Any comment disparaging an HR department are way off base. There are bad employees within HR departments but the function of the department is vital. If he had wanted you hired he would have assured that she blow up your phone, he brushed you off so deal with it.
Employees can be difficult so it sure helps to have a trusted and impartial advisor who can see through the bs. Also, hiring and terminating is a task with many details that need to be addressed and a pro handles it for the company. The only people hating HR are candidates who cannot get hired and employees who will/have been disciplined or fired.
Employees can be difficult so it sure helps to have a trusted and impartial advisor who can see through the bs. Also, hiring and terminating is a task with many details that need to be addressed and a pro handles it for the company. The only people hating HR are candidates who cannot get hired and employees who will/have been disciplined or fired.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:08 pm to Hammertime
The one at our company is worthless. Comes in an hour and a half late everyday and never answers her phone. Doesn't send paperwork to our corporate office on time for new hires and the bitch also hired herself help to do her job.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:09 pm to Topwater Trout
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The one at our company is worthless. Comes in an hour and a half late everyday and never answers her phone. Doesn't send paperwork to our corporate office on time for new hires and the bitch also hired herself help to do her job.
Sounds like your company does a shite job of managing hiring and firing.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:19 pm to 75503Tiger
quote:I believe that zero much. I have never understood having to go through another, bureaucratic layer just to get something done. Then, they turn around and ask someone else what they can do
The only people hating HR are candidates who cannot get hired and employees who will/have been disciplined or fired.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:23 pm to lynxcat
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ecruit candidates so that employees being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars can focus on their primary duties. This involves identification, scheduling, and contracting.
Training new employees of company policies.
Identifying turnover issues and creating solutions to fix them.
Creating and managing leadership development programs that move people cross functionally potentially across the country or globe.
Handle benefits, payroll questions.
The list is really long and these are a handful of random thoughts coming to mind...
Also compliance with EEOC, HIPAA, Wage and Hour Law. Handling FSLA and other leave. Investigation of complaints such as harassment, non-payment of hours or OT, and about a million other things.
It's amazing how little some of the OT knows about departmental functions in legitimate businesses.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:25 pm to Hammertime
quote:Maybe in 1923.
My uncle's company used to have, IIRC, 400 employees. They didn't have any HR and did perfectly fine
You couldn't do that today if you had 400 Mennonites only on the payroll.
Affordable Healthcare Act much?
Department of Labor or OSHA either?
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:37 pm to Hammertime
They serve a purpose. Although, most of the time that purpose is listening to hormonal middle-aged women bitch about their coworkers.
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