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re: Are criminals "born that way" like homosexuals?

Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:01 pm to
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Every crime they undertake starts with a choice and a risk/reward analysis.


Sure, but the issue is that not everyone processes that the same. The prefrontal cortex is the primary driver of risk analysis and long term planning. It isn’t fully developed until roughly the age of 25 in the average person. Further, we are starting to see indications that early childhood trauma can permanently stunt prefrontal cortex development.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:02 pm to
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So again, have any of you really known someone their whole life who ended up being a criminal
yes

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did them getting arrested and going to prison come as a complete shock to you?

No. The one I'll talk about with the harshest punishment was a 6'7" white guy who was a massive fan of rap music and urban culture as he found his natural calling in basketball early on. By his teens, he had participated in armed robbery and other crimes but lived away in a rural area growing up and was able to avoid trouble.. it caught up with him though, so when he moved to Baton Rouge in 2001 it wasnt surprising to me that he was arrested for murder shortly after. He's doing life with no chance of parole.

Sent me a letter from Angola in 2005, telling me to never frick up and end up there. Painted a horrible picture of how reality is there. I would compare it to if someone died and and went to hell, if they had a chance to describe it on paper.
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Were the a criminal their whole life in your opinion, why/why not?

Yes. some people just have that need. It's a high they chase.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 11:06 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32826 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:31 pm to
Figure it would be better to downvote you than read this stupid crap.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109035 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:45 pm to
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nobody is predisposed at birth to alcoholism


Do you even GABA receptor genes, baw?
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:49 pm to
Your cousin fricked dogs, yo.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13191 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:50 pm to
Drugs have leveled the playing field. I knew a lot of really good people who were poor when I was young. Poverty does not make you a criminal, environment and drugs can make a good person go bad in a heartbeat. The biggest thing that we can do to fix this national problem is to get the bad drugs out.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28740 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:53 pm to
haven't you watched Minority Report?
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12388 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 11:59 pm to
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I've read criminality can be both nature and nurture simultaneously.


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“I was looking at many scans, scans of murderers mixed in with schizophrenics, depressives and other, normal brains,” he says. “Out of serendipity, I was also doing a study on Alzheimer’s and as part of that, had brain scans from me and everyone in my family right on my desk.”

“I got to the bottom of the stack, and saw this scan that was obviously pathological,” he says, noting that it showed low activity in certain areas of the frontal and temporal lobes linked to empathy, morality and self-control. Knowing that it belonged to a member of his family, Fallon checked his lab’s PET machine for an error (it was working perfectly fine) and then decided he simply had to break the blinding that prevented him from knowing whose brain was pictured. When he looked up the code, he was greeted by an unsettling revelation: the psychopathic brain pictured in the scan was his own.


The neuroscientist who discovered he was a psychopath
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 12:15 am to
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Are criminals "born that way" like homosexuals?

Neither are born that way. Their environment can lead them towards being either. Some people may have a bad environment from childhood and they grow up thinking they were "born" that way.
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:43 am to
Yes and no. There are twin studies done where there’s a nature vs nurture. Sometimes children will still exhibit habits from their parents that they’ve been separated from. Other times they are taught better and so not have those habits.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10390 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 1:54 am to
I know people who come from dirt poor origins with bad influence all around them and they grew up to be successful law abiding citizens and known people in upper middle class/ upper class homes that are in jail today. At some point an individual becomes conscious and has to make a decision what type of person they will become, it is that simple.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
13389 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:32 am to
Are we just not gonna ask about this?
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Caught him drinking milk from a pit bull's nipple who just had a litter.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
61886 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:48 am to
NO, I don’t think anyone is born with a hopeless and inescapable predisposition to anything. I think lots of factors contribute to criminal activity, violence, or destructive behaviors, not the least of which is the way kids are raised. I think we are all born with a little devil inside us so to speak, but it’s in being taught and learning how to control ourselves, being loved, being disciplined, having positive role models that shape us. Those are the things that cause us to get on either a positive path toward success in life or a destructive one to failure in life.

Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3699 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:53 am to
Of course genetics plays a role. Having a Y chromosome makes you more prone to violent crime. Having 2 Y chromosomes makes you even more likely to be a criminal.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24522 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 6:58 am to
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Are we just not gonna ask about this?

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Caught him drinking milk from a pit bull's nipple who just had a litter.



I just read through the thread and was starting to think this wasn't going to be addressed.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/15/20 at 7:02 am to
If you want to discuss the movie, Trading Places, then take this to the TV/movie board.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50057 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 7:04 am to
No and homosexuals not born that way.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2416 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 7:48 am to
I have read somewhere that child molesters are dreadfully stupid on average. Like 75 IQ.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76240 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:01 am to
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Are criminals "born that way" like homosexuals?
Would a “butt bandit” check both of your boxes here?
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 8:05 am to
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Are criminals "born that way"


No. They just aren't taught values.

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I'm starting to think that criminals are also "born that way"


Then think again.

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there's nothing really you can do to change them.


This is probably true after a certain age.
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