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re: Are 2015+ GM SUV/trucks that unreliable?

Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:56 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
134994 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 7:56 am to
Very unreliable
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
50348 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:21 am to
Honestly there was only a small window of GM SUV/trucks that were reliable and those stopped being made closer to 2010.

At least with Toyota had an issue they just stopped everything and replaced the engine completely for everyone instead of denying forever
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8010 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:27 am to
We have a 2018 Yukon XL with the 5.3 with 170,000. It's been very reliable for us. The only major repair was 2 motor mounts.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12179 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:31 am to
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6.2L anything is risky.


The L87 (6.2L) started having issues right around 2020. The going rumor is GM went to a cheap manufacturer during Covid for their crankshafts. These cranks have a very rough surface finish and some have been out of spec enough to impact the inside of the block. They also become oil starved and start spinning bearings. This video is illuminating:

LINK


The most interesting part is the 6.2L versions in the GM sports cars (the LT1 motor) have not had any of the same issues. So they either get worked more in the factory or have a completely different supplier for cranks.

Switch your oil to 0W-40 and pucker up and hope your crank doesn’t fail.
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10376 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:47 am to
I drive a 2018 Tahoe that’s at 114k miles with no issues. Has the 5.3

Had a 2012 before that that I sold with 150k miles and no issues.

I guess I’ve been lucky. I’ve loved my tahoes. Can’t beat the space but I would stay away from the 2021-2024 models especially the 6.2 engine. Not saying my model year is free of any issues but there seem to be a lot more problems with the 21-24’s
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9821 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:51 am to
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The L87 (6.2L) started having issues right around 2020.


My 22 sierra with 6.2L locked up with 52k miles. I just got a new engine in it. 150k mile warranty on the bottom end of the engine. I'm hoping it makes it to that.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
2079 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:52 am to
I have a 1500 Sierra Denali with the smaller engine 2019. Over 60,000 miles so far I’ve just done scheduled maintenance.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
7438 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:53 am to
Not jinxing our 2016 Tahoe.

For vehicle purposes, we’re buying old used. Don’t give a shite if it squeaks and rattles. Don’t want to pay for insurance in Louisiana, I’d rather give a local mechanic a few hundred every year
Posted by TGCM
Member since Dec 2020
94 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:32 am to
I had a 21 Tahoe. Lifter went out at 70k. Baton Rouge dealership kept it for 6 months and finally replaced the engine. GM covered 85 percent of the bill though it was out of warranty (they should have covered the whole charge in my opinion). Picked it up, drove it home, and the radiator hose blew off the next day. The replacement engine comes with 150k warranty. I left with the local dealership traded it for 24 6.2 engine Tahoe since they offered at the time an incredible trade value and told me the 6.2 didn’t have any issues like the 5.3. Now the 6.2 apparently does have defects which require an inspection and possibly an engine replacement but the dealerships don’t have the parts. I’ve read that the warranties will be extended on those engines however and are transferable. The ac went out and one of the speakers went out (all under warranty). I’ve been disappointed with these vehicles but I haven’t found good reviews on alternate options. I’d be hesitant to buy a used gm that didn’t have a long warranty. Certainly would not get a 21.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3667 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 9:41 am to
I have had 4 Yukons in last 15 years (2 currently) and have never had issues.

I must be the unicorn according to your assessment.
Posted by Randall Savauge
Member since Aug 2021
531 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 10:36 am to
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I have had 4 Yukons in last 15 years (2 currently) and have never had issues. I must be the unicorn according to your assessment.


So that means you sell them after 3-4 years. Some people keep vehicles longer than that.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17116 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 12:20 pm to
I’ve owned two Chevy/GMC trucks in my life. One bought new, was a POS and traded it in within a year. Another one I bought with 24K miles on it POS as well. Traded that one in for a Toyota and have owned nothing but Yota ever since. No issues at all with Yotas.

YMMV but that has been my experience with them.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10031 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 12:26 pm to
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My 2020 has been rock solid


Same, Yukon XL. other than motor mounts, which is just a dumb thing to under-engineer.
Posted by JonTheTigerFan
Central, LA
Member since Nov 2003
7033 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 12:32 pm to
I have a 2018 Silverado 1500. Never had a single issue and kept it well maintained then the transmission went out at about 120,000 miles and had to have it rebuilt.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14400 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 12:34 pm to
99-07 for life
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10376 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 1:07 pm to
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99-07 for life


Probably the best for reliability but I’m still partial the the 90’s models. You still see a good bit of these driving around. Testament to the peak of American automakers. Maybe with the EPA changes our domestic automakers can get back to making reliable trucks/suv’s. We’ll see



Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
25090 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:02 pm to
I have a 2017 Denali and it’s had a few random problems but 100k in and it’s still drives fine.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
60179 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:03 pm to
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I bought a new Truck in 2023, it's almost embarrassing to admit what I paid for it vs what it's worth today.


As someone who has been looking at used trucks, I can say that it worth a hell of a lot today!
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32998 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 3:06 pm to
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The L87 (6.2L) started having issues right around 2020. The going rumor is GM went to a cheap manufacturer during Covid for their crankshafts. These cranks have a very rough surface finish and some have been out of spec enough to impact the inside of the block. They also become oil starved and start spinning bearings.


The lifter issues from 3-4 years ago were 100% caused by oiling. The move back to an old school oil pump and away from a variable displacement oil pump on the 5.3L when they moved from the L83 to L84 was a game changer. It all but eliminated lifter issues in that motor. It still needs good maintenance and clean oil, but that’s every modern engine these days.

No idea why they didn’t do the same thing in the 6.2L V8. And on top of that they got their bearings from Mexico from that engine. The next gen will source them all from Michigan and New York plants - for both quality control issues and tariffs. Rumor is that the next gen V8 will have a defeat setting for cylinder deactivation, which may be an option on some models.

I have zero concerns for the current 5.3L L84 engine. It’s no 4.0L Toyota or 350 Small Block Chevy…..but it’s well above average by today’s standards and miles ahead of the L83 5.3L V8 from 2015-2023ish. I would not touch the 6.2L though. If I had one I’d run 0w-40.

Ford needs to ditch their variable displacement pumps in the 6.8L and 7.3L V8 Super Duty engines. It will solve their lifter issues immediately. Less familiar with the HEMI ticks or the Tundra’s bottom end issues but I’ve heard it’s also likely oiling related.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47067 posts
Posted on 8/2/25 at 4:59 pm to
Yes they are horrible
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