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re: Appealing grade in English at LSU
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:18 am to LSUZombie
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:18 am to LSUZombie
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I’ll say this, the policy is ridiculous and the teacher should be challenged and reported for that policy alone. Taking away portions of letter grades over attendance is flat out wrong
What? How in the world is it wrong? He agreed to it when he took the class. He could've dropped and found a teacher who didn't have this policy.
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:18 am to fightingtigers98
quote:85% of 90 is 76
Assignments count as 85% of your grade- I made an A on that part.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:18 am to GeauxDoc
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5 pages and still no explanation how the C+ became an F on the transcript.
He explained it multiple times and posted the actual syllabus policy.
You make me very nervous if you're an actual doctor. You seem dumb as shite with a severe deficiency of reading comprehension
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:19 am to KG6
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Point of class-Learn the material. Result-learned the material.
Point of thread-Doesn't matter what your personal opinions on the attendance policy are. That's the policy the OP knew was in place. Result-OP is a dumbass.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:19 am to fightingtigers98
Bruh. There are like 1000 english teachers for every class. You gotta rate my professor that shite and make sure you get one that doesnt give a frick
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:20 am to KG6
quote:This may be the most important life lesson of them all, tbh.
If a teacher has some belief that their purpose is to teach you the ability to follow arbitrary instructions that actually have no reflection on your ability to understand the material
Part of college is learning responsibility. There are lots of "dumb" assignments out there that have nothing to do with learning a subject. You can think of attendance as its own assignment. Pointless to the subject itself? Sometimes. But not totally useless.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:21 am to fightingtigers98
When I taught college classes, a student was unlikely to make an "A" if he did not go to class.
I had some students who struggled with the material but who attended every class. I went out of my way to insure that they understood the material. I would spend time with them after or outside class if necessary. Basically, I knew they were putting in a lot of effort and I responded in kind.
I always felt that if a student attended class regularly and did not make an A or a B, that it was a teaching deficiency on my part.
If they missed a lot of class and made a C or a D, it was on them.
I had some students who struggled with the material but who attended every class. I went out of my way to insure that they understood the material. I would spend time with them after or outside class if necessary. Basically, I knew they were putting in a lot of effort and I responded in kind.
I always felt that if a student attended class regularly and did not make an A or a B, that it was a teaching deficiency on my part.
If they missed a lot of class and made a C or a D, it was on them.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:22 am to LSUZombie
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I’ll say this, the policy is ridiculous and the teacher should be challenged and reported for that policy alone. Taking away portions of letter grades over attendance is flat out wrong.
I have a feeling this is actually a department wide policy on what I'm assuming is freshman english. They had too many kids just not doing anything and failing that they added a big stick to get them into class and maybe actually write decent papers because of it.
So the department and instructor isn't going to GAF, not that they would under any circumstance anyway.
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I’d appeal on the grounds that this policy is unfair. No harm in trying especially since you had an A average before the attendance portion was weighed in.
Agreed, though there's a practically 0% chance they give it to him.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:24 am to LSUZombie
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I’d appeal on the grounds that this policy is unfair.
I mean, the penalty is tough, but what is unfair about it? 3 unexcused absences is a lot. It takes nothing to get some form of documentation for an absence.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:24 am to chinhoyang
I understand that, but in my case I was able to make an A on the assignments without showing up to every class. It seems unintuitive to in turn fail me because of that.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:24 am to Peazey
Unless it was explicitly stated, I'd argue the frick out of that. I'd lawyer up and fight it based on principle
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:25 am to fightingtigers98
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It seems unintuitive to in turn fail me because of that.
They failed you because you're an idiot. The fact that you still don't grasp this is further proof.
And I still maintain that this is BS.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:25 am to fightingtigers98
quote:Wait, your intuition was that the professor would ignore the policy?
It seems unintuitive to in turn fail me because of that.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:26 am to LNCHBOX
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Being where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be is part of being an adult.
It's probably the most important part of being an adult. If you just master this aspect of life, you will go farther than you ever imagined possible.
Fortune doesn't always favor the bold -- it favors the person who shows up.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:28 am to fightingtigers98
Does the OP live on or near campus? Have an outside full time job to support himself?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:29 am to fightingtigers98
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I understand that, but in my case I was able to make an A on the assignments without showing up to every class. It seems unintuitive to in turn fail me because of that.
Wrong. The rules are set at the beginning of the class. You failed to follow them. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. Eveyone here agrees the rule is stupid, but take this as a learning experience. There will always be stupid rules and annoying bosses and frustrating counter-intuitive practices in your life. You have to learn how to deal with them. That's part of growing up and part of being successful. Some rules can be bent some can be broken. Some must be followed.
Life is all about choosing the right battles and learning to play the game. You will stumble and fall and fail on your way to success, learn from your failures.
So I'll say again, because it's obvious your father failed you as a parent, take this as a learning experience. You have no control in a classroom and your opinions don't matter so just shut the frick up, follow the rules, get an A and move on. This is not a battle to choose. This is not a good hill to die on. You failed. Learn from it and move on. At the end of the day no one gives a shite about a mistake on your undergrad underclass section of your college transcripts. Hell almost no one gives a shite about your college transcripts anyway. Shut up. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
As a last ditch effort, be a man, swallow your pride, and go have a candid discussion with your teacher in which you admit you're an idiot or lie and say your grandma was dying and ask him if you can make up the credit.
In my experience, teachers respect honesty and humility. I got a few grades changed by just going to my teacher and laying all my cards on the table. Of course, you have to know how to read your teacher and play to his sympathies. Or keep crying like a baby and asking if your mommy can help you.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 9:40 am
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:30 am to TBoy
I live off campus on Burbank, and yes I have jobs that many of you have likely encountered.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:31 am to Breesus
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Wrong. The rules are set at the beginning of the class. You failed to follow them. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. Eveyone here agrees the rule is stupid, but take this as a learning experience. There will always be stupid rules and annoying bosses and frustration counter-intuitive practices in your life. You have to learn how to deal with them. That's part of growing up and part of being successful. Some rules can be bent some can be broken. Some must be followed.
Life is all about choosing the right battles and learning to play the game. You will stumble and fall and fail on your way to success, learn from your failures.
So I'll say again, take this as a learning experience. You have no control in a classroom and your opinions don't matter so just shut the frick up, follow the rules, get an A and move on. This is not a battle to choose. This is not a good hill to die on. You failed. Learn from it and move on. At the end of the day no one gives a shite about a mistake on your undergrad underclass section of your college transcripts. Hell almost no one gives a shite about your college transcripts anyway. Shut up. Learn from your mistakes and move on.
Appreciate the reasonable and candid response unlike some of the others.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:33 am to fightingtigers98
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I live off campus on Burbank,
So there’s a bus route that takes you right to Locket Hall, about 50 yards from the quad where you English class was held?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:34 am to fightingtigers98
I'm sure the policy was stated in the syllabus.
You chose to ignore it while other students showed up to class.
Enjoy your F.
You chose to ignore it while other students showed up to class.
Enjoy your F.
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