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re: Appealing grade in English at LSU

Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:01 am to
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13297 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:01 am to
Yes. Participation is 15% of your grade, attendance is considered a part of participation. So if you don't show up, your participation grade goes down. Then if you miss more than 3 classes, your final grade is lowered half a letter grade for each ensuing class you miss. So not only is your participation being lowered, but your final grade is being lowered simultaneously as well.

Assignments count as 85% of your grade- I made an A on that part.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:02 am to
quote:

He went from a 90 to a C+ due to missed quizzes (basically an attendance check) and then the teacher doubled down with the ridiculous attendance policy. Op chose a shitty class.


Yep. Check reviews next time and see if attendance is a deal breaker.

OP probably wont have to worry about the F on the transcript because he will have to take it again. It will just be noted that it was repeated.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:02 am to
Plagiarizing himself? How the hell does that work? I always used my old papers in English classes
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87186 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:02 am to
You aren't making a case for yourself. You are making it worse. The easiest part of college is simply showing up. It was worth a ton in this class and yet here you are complaining because you were too dumb to take advantage.

You should probably just drop out.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32982 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:03 am to
How many classes did you skip?

80%? higher?
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 9:03 am
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:03 am to
unl
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22465 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:03 am to
It sounds like the instructor taught you something in addition to English.

Rules do apply to you, mama's special little guy. Now take your F like a man.
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2987 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:04 am to
Pay them again to take it.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22045 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:05 am to
Ask yourself this... if when you are out of college and interviewing, and an employer asks you about this F, would you be comfortable telling him/her you failed simply because of your lack of attendance?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27499 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:09 am to
Go to class or fail. How hard is that?
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25592 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:10 am to
The argument that "attendance policies make it hard for non-traditional students" is specious. I've taught classes where all the students were non-traditional. I didn't have an attendance policy because I did not need one. They were paying for their classes and they attended class.

Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25424 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:11 am to
I've heard of it happening before. Reusing assignments, and it's more likely to get caught nowadays because of the turnitin type databases. Guess it depends on how much of a dick a teacher wants to be.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13297 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:11 am to
It was 12 classes that I skipped. So just around 1/4th of them.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87186 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:13 am to
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It was 12 classes that I skipped.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:13 am to
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but I failed my english based purely on attendance.


You should've fricking shown up then. It's not like you don't know attendance is part of the grade from syllabus week.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29564 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:15 am to
I’ll say this, the policy is ridiculous and the teacher should be challenged and reported for that policy alone. Taking away portions of letter grades over attendance is flat out wrong.

But on the other hand, you show up for things you commit to. Your job, family obligations, and yes, even college classes. In a strange way his class holds one accountable for being where you need to be on time, much like the real world does.

I’d appeal on the grounds that this policy is unfair. No harm in trying especially since you had an A average before the attendance portion was weighed in.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 9:55 am
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:16 am to
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Except following instructions.


Point of class-Learn the material. Result-learned the material.

If a teacher has some belief that their purpose is to teach you the ability to follow arbitrary instructions that actually have no reflection on your ability to understand the material, then that's on them. When a teacher in a different section decides that they don't take attendance and can give the same credit for the same class, then attendance is obviously not in any way part of the necessary curriculum for that course. So why should any one teacher be able to use it as a reasoning for stopping a student from moving forward.

You "sometimes you just have to show up people" are going to get stuck in 8-5 jobs doing meaningless BS all day. I am now in a career where I leave at 2 if I don't have anything to do. And just like in college, I take advantage of it. But when I need to take care of business, I get my shite done whether it be during working hours or at 2 a.m. (I have no control over when I get calls). It's worked well for me.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:16 am to
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OP probably wont have to worry about the F on the transcript because he will have to take it again. It will just be noted that it was repeated.



LSU doesn’t “erase and replace” like some schools—or at least they didn’t when I was there. You retake the class and both grades show up on the transcript and are averaged into the GPA.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:18 am to
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LSU doesn’t “erase and replace” like some schools—or at least they didn’t when I was there. You retake the class and both grades show up on the transcript and are averaged into the GPA.


Well that sucks then.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:18 am to
The teacher is aware of his own uselessness and has an attendance policy to justify drawing a paycheck in spite of it. But you’re still screwed.
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