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re: AP: Parents begged cops to enter school as shooting unfolded. Cops refused

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Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:20 pm to
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and knowing school shootings are all too commo


Getting beyond the fact that one is too common, how common are they? Number of schools times the number of school days, compared to the number of actual school shootings per year. What is that number? I honestly don't know, but I assume it's not big. This is purely from a risk assessment perspective.
Posted by ChiGator
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by Vlatket
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:22 pm to
Lol I bet you feel high and mighty Mr. English Grammar
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:24 pm to
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it’s all inside jobs. they are told to stand down, because this is part of the Agenda. and it sucks that kids were sacrificed. i really am starting to fricking hate it here


Two tragedies in one. The worthless tools doing what they did, and the countless people who believe it was a deranged lunatic that should’ve never owned a gun.

There were a lot less of these with the previous administration in D.C.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:25 pm to
I’ve yet to read anything that makes sense to explain why armed police did not breach and enter and attempt to save children’s lives
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:26 pm to
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I’ve yet to read anything that makes sense to explain why armed police did not breach and enter and attempt to save children’s lives

It hasn’t even been 36 hours.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Emergencies are why you have protocol. Untrained humans do very stupid and irrational things under pressure.

Imagine you are a parent outside that school, and you are hearing gunshots while the cops standby, waiting on someone to give the order to go in.

I'm going in. Armed or not.

Not sure I could live with myself knowing I did nothing while shots rang out, and one was meant for my kid.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Getting beyond the fact that one is too common, how common are they?


27 have occurred so far this year. So nation wide, averaging more than once a week, in terms of the whole year.

Since the school year was half over in January, and school years typically are about 25 weeks long (not including holiday weeks), then it comes out to about 2 school shootings per week of school.

Now, most school shootings are not “mass” shootings, but seeing as schools are soft targets with lots of unarmed innocents clustered in one building, you probably have to treat all in-progress school shootings as potential mass shootings.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:29 pm to
Has it been said…were there any survivors in that room? My guess is no because 18-22 kids is a typical class size for elementary
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:30 pm to
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I’ve yet to read anything that makes sense to explain why armed police did not breach and enter and attempt to save children’s lives



What really smells bad for the locals it was a DHS (Border Patrol) agent that went through the door first and killed the shooter. A federal agent answering an emergency call in a municipality with a police force is the first guy through the door?
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:30 pm to
Jesus fricking christ.

Cops refused to enter, so out of everyone, it was a border patrol agent that took the gunman down.


Those cops gonna live with this on their mind for the rest of their lives.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:31 pm to
Single Point of Entry
Security Checks
Armed Officer/Guard told to shoot if anyone comes through and doesn't comply.

Sort em out later if said person ends up not being armed.....follow protocol
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:31 pm to
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27 have occurred so far this year.


I guarantee with absolute certainty that this isn't a real number. Think for one second and I think that would be obvious.

But even with that number, that's out of millions of school days just in 2022. So if a swat team has 50 schools in their area, how do you divvy up the limited resources?
Posted by LSUTigahss
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:31 pm to
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before implying that responding LEO's were cowards. Which is highly, highly unlikely

No it isn’t.
Have you ever met a few of your local cops? Unless you are one, you know it’s highly, highly LIKELY.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:33 pm to
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it’s all inside jobs. they are told to stand down, because this is part of the Agenda. and it sucks that kids were sacrificed.


Idiot
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:33 pm to
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it’s all inside jobs. they are told to stand down, because this is part of the Agenda. and it sucks that kids were sacrificed.
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Tiger Nation 84


STFU with your ignorance and lunacy.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:35 pm to
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It is quite hard to totally refute. Whether the shooting is organic and response is orchestrated or the whole thing is orchestrated/instigated

I don’t think it’s orchestrated but I sometimes wonder if people intent on bringing down our society seek out the mentally ill to do these horrible acts. Maybe these crazy people screaming about government messages in their heads aren’t always lying.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:37 pm to
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So if a swat team has 50 schools in their area, how do you divvy up the limited resources?



You divvy it up as best you can, I guess. But if there’s one thing that should be high priority for a PD, Sheriff Department, or State Troopers, it should be how to respond to a mass shooting at a school.

Who knows where to get the extra resources. But if Uvalde is like any small town in Mississippi or Alabama, they’re probably wasting money on speed traps and SWAT busts of dipshits caught with 0.026 ounces of marijuana.

Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:38 pm to
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Police who don’t do their job in these scenarios should be fired at best prosecuted at worst
They should be put in front of a firing squad for cowardice.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41568 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 10:38 pm to
I wouldn't trust our local police to do shite.
Don't know much about the sheriff's department, I assume they aren't much better.
This post was edited on 5/25/22 at 10:47 pm
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