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re: Anyone here been a homicide detective or know one?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:23 pm to Joe Davola
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:23 pm to Joe Davola
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Pretty sure that detective was me
Small world
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Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:24 pm to 3D
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Stay there for about 28 hrs straight with nasty fast food and tons of coffee. Get zero help from anyone who witnessed everything and run into dead end after dead end. When your completely frustrated and pissed off, Then your at the tip of the homicide det. iceberg.
See this is my issue. We plied our WW2 and Vietnam Pilots with amphetamines to defeat an American enemy. Why are our homicide detectives stuck with fricking coffee to get the job done? Pull out the stops and solve some frickin crime. Give them all adderall scripts.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:31 pm to kisatchie53
I know one of the federal prosecutors from the Pulse nightclub case. The video footage visibly messed him up for a while. Don't think he'd ever admit it, but it was obvious.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:40 pm to kisatchie53
Semi-OT, but does anyone happen to know a hooker with a heart of gold?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 9:57 pm to kisatchie53
A family member was a homicide detective in a well-known law enforcement organization in Louisiana. He found it interesting, but a lot of work for not a lot of pay while dealing with a fair amount of administrative bullshtuff.
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It's easier for a homicide detective to get motivated to really put in the extra effort, even for no extra compensation, where the victim was a solid citizen. Unfortunately, more than a few homicide victims were themselves not good people. (Which of course is not to say that you don't want to nail the murderer, because the murderer is still a murderer, and society would be better with him off the streets.)
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It's easier for a homicide detective to get motivated to really put in the extra effort, even for no extra compensation, where the victim was a solid citizen. Unfortunately, more than a few homicide victims were themselves not good people. (Which of course is not to say that you don't want to nail the murderer, because the murderer is still a murderer, and society would be better with him off the streets.)
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 8:26 am
Posted on 11/22/21 at 10:06 pm to GeauxOCDP
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I know one of the federal prosecutors from the Pulse nightclub case. The video footage visibly messed him up for a while. Don't think he'd ever admit it, but it was obvious.
This story was absolutely horrific just to listen to on the radio. I can't imagine working closely on it and being exposed to stories, images, etc.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 10:27 pm to kisatchie53
Watch the Netflix documentary The Night Stalker. It is a documentary on the two La Sheriff’s detectives Frank Salerno and Gil Carillo hunt for Richard Rameriez. old school bad arse cops. One of the best crime documentaries ever made. You will get to see real murder investigation and police work.
Frank Salerno is considered one of the best homicide detectives to ever work in L.A.
Frank Salerno is considered one of the best homicide detectives to ever work in L.A.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:13 pm to Joe Davola
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BRPD from 2018
What academy class
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:59 pm to kisatchie53
Let's see...You get into your bed for the first time in two days. You start to doze and your pager goes off. The 36-hour clock starts running...Oh, wait, the 36-hour clock on the last one just ended. You and your partner show up at the scene, which is usually in some array of chaos. Screaming relatives, homies, baby mommas, and the like. Heck, it's quickly becoming a social event. The victim has been shot 5 times with 9mm. Hmm, you can only find 3 casings because some paramedic/fireman either kicked them a mile or has one wedged in the treads of his boot.
The rookie in charge of perimeter security was backed down by a Captain that had a 3 martini dinner and now enters the scene smoking a cigar contaminating everything. You thank God to find the two patrol officers who know their shite and have taken photos, written down license plates, and gotten some contact info.
You deal with the crime lab, start your interviews, follow leads and write search warrants, wake up the pissed-off on-call judge to sign them... Oh damn, have to be at the morgue in 30 minutes for the autopsy...Clear the autopsy and you get a phone call from the DA reminding you, you're testifying in another case this afternoon. Crap. Your partner holds down the fort till you get back.
You and your partner have had maybe 8 hours of sleep in the last 72 hours. You're surviving on Payday Bars, Mountain Dew, and Salem Lights. It's not gonna get much better. You two are on call for 4 more days. It's summer in EPA 1992. You roll up to the main office to grab some crime lab reports, and some new never worked the streets slap-dick Lieutenant starts busting your balls because you're not wearing a tie and you haven't shaved. Yep, just like it plays on TV.
The rookie in charge of perimeter security was backed down by a Captain that had a 3 martini dinner and now enters the scene smoking a cigar contaminating everything. You thank God to find the two patrol officers who know their shite and have taken photos, written down license plates, and gotten some contact info.
You deal with the crime lab, start your interviews, follow leads and write search warrants, wake up the pissed-off on-call judge to sign them... Oh damn, have to be at the morgue in 30 minutes for the autopsy...Clear the autopsy and you get a phone call from the DA reminding you, you're testifying in another case this afternoon. Crap. Your partner holds down the fort till you get back.
You and your partner have had maybe 8 hours of sleep in the last 72 hours. You're surviving on Payday Bars, Mountain Dew, and Salem Lights. It's not gonna get much better. You two are on call for 4 more days. It's summer in EPA 1992. You roll up to the main office to grab some crime lab reports, and some new never worked the streets slap-dick Lieutenant starts busting your balls because you're not wearing a tie and you haven't shaved. Yep, just like it plays on TV.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:21 am to kisatchie53
Wears off very soon. ALOT of hours but they used to pay us for it without question. Where I worked, many would go to Homicide for 3 yrs to lock in your pension (average of 3 highest paid years consecutively). Good thing for us OT went toward that. Anyway it gets old, is very demanding, and writing 100 page reports (at times) can be frustrating. Not to mention, cooperation from witnesses and even victims (obviously survivors) is rare nowadays. There was an element of prestige where I worked (NO area) being a homicide detective, but like I said it was very demanding. Working 18 hrs, going home, jumping into bed, then having your phone ring just as you doze off and knowing you’re in for another 12-18 hrs easily will age you quickly.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:23 am to kisatchie53
Yep...went to high school with him.
Name is Paul Echols. Solved a cold case murder and it was made into one of those TV shows. He wrote a book, trained FBI agents and taught at SIU Carbondale. Graduated same year with another fella in that class by the name of Curt Jones....the inventor of Dip & Dots Ice-cream.
My dumbass is in the oilfield.
Name is Paul Echols. Solved a cold case murder and it was made into one of those TV shows. He wrote a book, trained FBI agents and taught at SIU Carbondale. Graduated same year with another fella in that class by the name of Curt Jones....the inventor of Dip & Dots Ice-cream.
My dumbass is in the oilfield.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:34 am to kisatchie53
You think it’d be cool to have to look at and smell mutilated decomposing bodies all day? On top of that realizing just how evil people in the world actually are?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 6:42 am to kisatchie53
One of my friends I've known since grade school worked homicide. The stories he'd share... I just don't know how he does it.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 6:45 am to mattchewbocca
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You think it’d be cool to have to look at and smell mutilated decomposing bodies all day? On top of that realizing just how evil people in the world actually are?
Fwiw I do that at my current job
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:06 am to kisatchie53
I grew up knowing a whole bunch in NOLA. My Dad's family had a lot of cops in the extended family. Interesting guys ( and 1 girl). They always seemed stressed and on edge....except for one cousin who could turn it off at the end of the day. He delayed getting married until he made captain and got off the street.He said if you valued your wife and your kids don't be an active detective or guy on the street because it wasn't fair to them. He retired at 47 and became an orthodox priest.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:07 am to kisatchie53
Joe Navarno is probably one of the best crime scene interviewers. He was used on top terrorists and has solved many huge cases.
He now does public speaking, writes books, ect. He explains "tells" very well. There is even a podcast from "Gambling With An Edge" where he discusses his insights from watching/playing poker which revolutionized how professionals now play.
If you employ his logic, you really can see and know what people are thinking and if they are telling the truth. Amazing what you already know, but you disregard in what you see in daily converstations.
He now does public speaking, writes books, ect. He explains "tells" very well. There is even a podcast from "Gambling With An Edge" where he discusses his insights from watching/playing poker which revolutionized how professionals now play.
If you employ his logic, you really can see and know what people are thinking and if they are telling the truth. Amazing what you already know, but you disregard in what you see in daily converstations.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:36 am to kisatchie53
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:46 am to Tbonepatron
I was 5821 in the Marines, CID. I worked in both CID offices and NIS. We investigated a few homicides, felony and sexual assaults a year. It's usually pretty mundane really. A secret though, NIS/NCIS is one of the most useless, incompetent branches of Federal law enforcement there is.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:51 am to kisatchie53
My dad was a police officer for over 35 years. He did homicide for about 3 years and hated it. Said it was boring and depressing. He ended up going back to the burglary/robbery investigations division and retired there.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:53 am to MoarKilometers
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I once was "interviewed" by a homicide detective. Seemed like a complete dumbass, bragging about being on America's most wanted, for not solving the case i was being questioned about
How'd you get away with it?
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