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re: Anyone have experience w Glioblastoma? Personal or professional?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 7:53 am to Magic Helmet
Posted on 3/10/20 at 7:53 am to Magic Helmet
Even when it is caught early, it still tears through patients within 2 years a vast majority of the time. Make sure your loved one is going somewhere that has a multidisciplinary team (neurosurgery, neurooncology, radiation oncology) coordinating closely with each other. All the data shows that patients treated at these facilities have superior long-term outcomes.
If it hasn't already, it needs to be surgically removed ASAP. And get a second opinion if anyone tells them to get whole brain radiation.
Move on to a different center if any of those specialists mentioned above are unwilling or incapable of seeing them within a week. Have medical records and imaging available on demand. Imaging reports dont cut it, get the scans themselves on a disc.
Tumor treating fields (Optune) is one of the experimental treatments that I'm aware of. Isoray brachytherapy can be used during the tumor resection surgery in some circumstances. DM-CHOC-PEN is a radiosensitizer can be given to patients prior to radiation to boost the effectiveness of the treatment.
If it hasn't already, it needs to be surgically removed ASAP. And get a second opinion if anyone tells them to get whole brain radiation.
Move on to a different center if any of those specialists mentioned above are unwilling or incapable of seeing them within a week. Have medical records and imaging available on demand. Imaging reports dont cut it, get the scans themselves on a disc.
Tumor treating fields (Optune) is one of the experimental treatments that I'm aware of. Isoray brachytherapy can be used during the tumor resection surgery in some circumstances. DM-CHOC-PEN is a radiosensitizer can be given to patients prior to radiation to boost the effectiveness of the treatment.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 7:55 am to Magic Helmet
my aunt died from a gliomablastoma multiforme in the 70's.
as you mention, it is really difficult.
I believe they have some experimental treatments they did not have way back then. immunotherapy, engineering viruses to attack tumor cells, etc. i cant speak intelligently about these options, but may be something to ask your doctors about.
best of luck and sorry for the hard news.
as you mention, it is really difficult.
I believe they have some experimental treatments they did not have way back then. immunotherapy, engineering viruses to attack tumor cells, etc. i cant speak intelligently about these options, but may be something to ask your doctors about.
best of luck and sorry for the hard news.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 8:29 am to Magic Helmet
My uncle on my dads side and my grandfather on my moms side both passed from this.
Currently my aunt on my moms side has it. The doctor removed 100 percent of the tumor from my aunt but even this is only giving her a little more time.
Currently my aunt on my moms side has it. The doctor removed 100 percent of the tumor from my aunt but even this is only giving her a little more time.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 8:43 am to Magic Helmet
Buddy of mine was diagnosed with one. Couldn't remove all of it because of the location. Chemo/radiation reduced it but it will always be there. Has to get a check up every three months I believe. Living fine as of now. My father died of a brain tumor back in 69, don't know if they had names for these tumors back then.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:07 am to Magic Helmet
My best friend finally succumbed to Glioblastoma this past November after 5 years of a hard fight. One never knows how the symptoms will manifest themselves from week to week. There were times of fatigue, times of confusion, times of physical pain, seizures, weakness, and countless other symptoms.
The treatment involved chemo and radiation. Radiation is what eventually did him in. It is a terrible disease and I wish your loved one the best.
If I can offer one piece of advice: there will times where you want that person to attend things before their terminal diagnosis finally gets them, BUT, understand that they cannot do all of things they once did. they may look normal, but they really do not feel normal. Understand that they are not shunning you. Understand their struggle, and spend as much time as you can enriching their life. You will get it back in spades.
The treatment involved chemo and radiation. Radiation is what eventually did him in. It is a terrible disease and I wish your loved one the best.
If I can offer one piece of advice: there will times where you want that person to attend things before their terminal diagnosis finally gets them, BUT, understand that they cannot do all of things they once did. they may look normal, but they really do not feel normal. Understand that they are not shunning you. Understand their struggle, and spend as much time as you can enriching their life. You will get it back in spades.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:26 am to Hopeful Doc
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Not to be too presumptive, but I'd encourage your loved one and family to remove stigma and preconceived notions about hospice and give it consideration-at least interview one or two- if it is offered by the treating doc in the case of advanced disease.
We’re meeting with hospice shortly. The neurologist said the size and and location of the tumor make it difficult to treat effectively. My Mom is 80 and she chose not to endure any harsh treatments that might possibly cause more harm than good.
I thought it was dementia. It’s staggering how quickly her symptoms have progressed in the last two weeks.
Call your parents and tell them you love them and say a payer for my Mom.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:35 am to Magic Helmet
Sending up a prayer for you and your family.
At her age, hospice is the best hope for her to not endure more pain. My active mother in law was diagnosed at around the same age and had the best treatment available at Mayo Clinic - despite being given hope, I think she went through hellish treatment for nothing.
The neurosurgeon described glio as “melting” into the brain in such a way that it is impossible to know when you have removed all of it.
At her age, hospice is the best hope for her to not endure more pain. My active mother in law was diagnosed at around the same age and had the best treatment available at Mayo Clinic - despite being given hope, I think she went through hellish treatment for nothing.
The neurosurgeon described glio as “melting” into the brain in such a way that it is impossible to know when you have removed all of it.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 9:46 am to Magic Helmet
OP:
As you've probably learned, the location of the tumor is a huge factor in one's prognosis.
A very good friend of mine died from this disease almost three years ago. The surgeon told him that the tumor was on the left side of his brain and extended down into the brain stem. The left side controls speech, rational thought, analytical skills - the right side is generally the more "creative' side.
The surgeon told my friend that if the mass had been on the right side, he could remove all of it. But since it was on the left side, total removal would leave him with the mental faculties of a turnip. (Yes, this is exactly what he was told).
My friend went though several treatments at MD Anderson (chemo, radiation, two follow-up surgeries to reduce the size of the mass as it grew). He lasted about a year, with 10 of those months being "OK."
There is nothing good about Glioblastoma. Period.
As you've probably learned, the location of the tumor is a huge factor in one's prognosis.
A very good friend of mine died from this disease almost three years ago. The surgeon told him that the tumor was on the left side of his brain and extended down into the brain stem. The left side controls speech, rational thought, analytical skills - the right side is generally the more "creative' side.
The surgeon told my friend that if the mass had been on the right side, he could remove all of it. But since it was on the left side, total removal would leave him with the mental faculties of a turnip. (Yes, this is exactly what he was told).
My friend went though several treatments at MD Anderson (chemo, radiation, two follow-up surgeries to reduce the size of the mass as it grew). He lasted about a year, with 10 of those months being "OK."
There is nothing good about Glioblastoma. Period.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:20 am to Magic Helmet
From another board where I post, so it may read funny on dates/times.
My wife was diagnosed with a glioblastoma in September of 2017. She went through the standard treatment including surgery, radiation and chemo. Initially, she did well, and even worked part time until December of 2018. In August of 2018, both oncologists determined that continued treatment could not guarantee any additional days on the back end, but would guarantee decreased quality of life on the front end.
Things didn't get really bad until last December of 2018. It got to the point where her entire world consisted of her bed and a power recliner I bought for the den. The last two weeks were spent entirely in a hospital bed.
Our hospice service was really great. I found a private sitter for the last 3 weeks who is an absolute angel. She cared for her as if they were mother/daughter. I can't say enough about how wonderful she has been.
In the last week, she slept over 23 hours a day. She could only say yes, no and ok. I listened to her breathing all night and would sleep about 3 hours or so. I heard her last breath at 2:05 Saturday morning.
My wife was diagnosed with a glioblastoma in September of 2017. She went through the standard treatment including surgery, radiation and chemo. Initially, she did well, and even worked part time until December of 2018. In August of 2018, both oncologists determined that continued treatment could not guarantee any additional days on the back end, but would guarantee decreased quality of life on the front end.
Things didn't get really bad until last December of 2018. It got to the point where her entire world consisted of her bed and a power recliner I bought for the den. The last two weeks were spent entirely in a hospital bed.
Our hospice service was really great. I found a private sitter for the last 3 weeks who is an absolute angel. She cared for her as if they were mother/daughter. I can't say enough about how wonderful she has been.
In the last week, she slept over 23 hours a day. She could only say yes, no and ok. I listened to her breathing all night and would sleep about 3 hours or so. I heard her last breath at 2:05 Saturday morning.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:25 am to Magic Helmet
A co-worker of mine's spouse had it. He didn't last but a couple of months.
A few months after, a friend of mine got the diagnosis.
When I told the co-worker she just looked at me and said, "your friend is a dead man".
I'll never forget it.
A few months after, a friend of mine got the diagnosis.
When I told the co-worker she just looked at me and said, "your friend is a dead man".
I'll never forget it.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 10:27 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:30 am to AlxTgr
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I heard her last breath at 2:05 Saturday morning.
That was a tear jerker of a post.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:33 am to Magic Helmet
Good friend from another board has it, and wrote quite extensively about it over there. He is somewhat private, but posted it for us. I was going to post the link, but thought better of it. IF you are interested, let me know, and I'll send the link to you.
His first-hand account is quite TL;DR, but sad AND funny at the same time. He is a talented writer He has a great attitude about it and is so far after much treatment, doing pretty well.
His first-hand account is quite TL;DR, but sad AND funny at the same time. He is a talented writer He has a great attitude about it and is so far after much treatment, doing pretty well.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:55 am to Magic Helmet
Please don't take this the wrong way, as I know things don't always translate well over the internet.
I am relieved for everyone involved that this particular diagnosis is for an 80 yo
Has to be absolute best case scenario.
May you find peace and have only fond memories.
I am relieved for everyone involved that this particular diagnosis is for an 80 yo
Has to be absolute best case scenario.
May you find peace and have only fond memories.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:06 am to RedPop4
took me a while to be able to respond to this, I'll do my best
Lost my brother in law to this, 20 plus years ago
great guy. wonderful husband to my sister and father to my nephews. He was only 41 at the time. My nephews were only 4 and 2 at the time
misdiagnosed as adult-onset epilepsy in Sept, passed in February.
had he been properly treated things might have ended differently
it sucks,, I hope for the best for all involved
Lost my brother in law to this, 20 plus years ago
great guy. wonderful husband to my sister and father to my nephews. He was only 41 at the time. My nephews were only 4 and 2 at the time
misdiagnosed as adult-onset epilepsy in Sept, passed in February.
had he been properly treated things might have ended differently
it sucks,, I hope for the best for all involved
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 11:09 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:53 am to Magic Helmet
My brother had a medulloblastoma. Because it sits on the stem, he suffered major brain damage during the surgery. Suffered a stroke during recovery.
He spent the remaining 19 years in a wheelchair and had a very low quality of life at times...but science granted him 19 more years. It's not the life he wanted, but he lived.
My advice. Don't mess around with the current neurosurgeon because your loved one likes him/her. Go to MD Anderson. Google it. They are the best.
He spent the remaining 19 years in a wheelchair and had a very low quality of life at times...but science granted him 19 more years. It's not the life he wanted, but he lived.
My advice. Don't mess around with the current neurosurgeon because your loved one likes him/her. Go to MD Anderson. Google it. They are the best.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:43 pm to wahoocs
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am relieved for everyone involved that this particular diagnosis is for an 80 yo Has to be absolute best case scenario.
We have a dear family friend who, at age 18, is losing the cancer battle. I’m keeping it all in perspective, for sure. My Mom at 80 has lived her life; not so for an 18 YO - it’s all so unfairly random.
I’m so thankful for the comments and prayers from the OT.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 11:49 pm to Magic Helmet
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We’re meeting with hospice shortly. The neurologist said the size and and location of the tumor make it difficult to treat effectively. My Mom is 80 and she chose not to endure any harsh treatments that might possibly cause more harm than good.
I hope the meeting goes to your liking. It is a wonderful and underutilized service.
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Call your parents and tell them you love them and say a payer for my Mom.
Of course to both. It's very difficult to say what it is you'll do when it's your own family member, but my wife's grandmother got a fairly rare, rapidly-terminal inoperable cancer a few years ago- something like 90d from onset of symptoms to death. The entire family still talks about how great the last weeks were. Enjoy the little time that's left to say all the things you forgot to tell her over the last (I don't know, 45? 50?) Years. Write it down in a letter (or two) for her, especially if she's having memory problems. Writing just has a different effect in general, but especially in folks who have difficulty remembering, it seems to just make a bigger impact.
I'll be thinking of you and your mother.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 2:51 am to AlxTgr
Alx:
Just now looking back at this thread (been dealing with Corona disruption), so I'm just now seeing your post. As MWP said, reading your post was an emotional experience.
I sent you an email (using the only email address I have).
Just now looking back at this thread (been dealing with Corona disruption), so I'm just now seeing your post. As MWP said, reading your post was an emotional experience.
I sent you an email (using the only email address I have).
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:44 am to AthensRattler
Well-written post, thanks for sharing, and I’m truly sorry for your loss.
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