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Anyone have experience w Glioblastoma? Personal or professional?

Posted on 3/9/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Magic Helmet
Jackson, MS
Member since Jul 2019
503 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 11:36 pm
A loved one recently diagnosed with it —its a pretty nasty fast growing brain tumor. Any experiences, good or bad are appreciated.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22349 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 11:47 pm to
I have experiences on both sides of the specrtum

Lost my godfather/uncle to one in ‘99. Only one of six brothers who didn’t smoke and/or drink. Ran 6 miles a day and could bench press 400 lbs at the age of 50. Was given 6 mos and lasted 11.

I have a pt now that has to be close to the longest surviving stage 4 glio. I don’t know specifics of the location of the tumor, but she has been a dental pt of mine for at least 15 years, and she had it removed prior, and she is fully functioning with slight side effects.

I suppose that the location of her tumor has played a big part in her survival.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12141 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:00 am to
This is usually a very bad diagnosis...however, I had a close friend who lasted 12 years with 2 major surgeries...her last year was very tough...but so was she. She was a big outlier, but it can happen.
God bless..
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6202 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:08 am to
Statistically a very bad diagnosis.
But, shite is changing all the time!
Look at Jimmy Carter. Guy gets a brain tumor in summer of 15' most figure he's lucky to see Christmas that year. Nearly 5 years later still kicking arse.

With advances in pharma crazy shite is possible!
Posted by La Cucaracha
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2016
383 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:11 am to
Had a coworker diagnosed with it. Went in with stroke symptoms. She lasted 14 months.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14965 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:12 am to
quote:

pretty nasty fast growing brain tumor.



Good description. On the list of "diseases I don't want" list, I think it's 3rd behind locked-in syndrome and ALS. I can't think of a malignancy I fear more than this one.

I had two friends with family members with it and one patient. They were all fairly advanced. I think the two that chose palliative care made the better choice than the one who endured 6ish months of treatment- they weren't very good months for him.


I hope I don't come across as pessimistic or negative. I hope it's very early stage and your experiences are nothing like theirs. But I'm sorry to hear that you know someone with it.

Not to be too presumptive, but I'd encourage your loved one and family to remove stigma and preconceived notions about hospice and give it consideration-at least interview one or two- if it is offered by the treating doc in the case of advanced disease.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4935 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:21 am to
No personal experience, and sorry your loved one is going through it.

Watched a really interesting 60mins segment a while back where doctors at Duke Med Ctr inject a genetically modified version of the polio virus into the glioblastoma tumors and the polio essentially eats the tumor. Lengthens the survival times and some had remarkable results. Pretty amazing- there are numerous stories online but it might be a good resource worth checking into, if they’re even still doing it- here is a link-
Duke study
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1519 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:24 am to
Im sorry. But you can never lose hope. A friend was diagnosed with scant chance of survival. Amazingly he lived almost 5 years and 4 were pretty good.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 12:25 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98203 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:31 am to
Really really sorry. My grandmother had it. Took her in two months. Tried surgery but the surgeon said once he got in there he regretted it. Didnt extend her life. The only good thing is it didn't seem to be painful. Never needed any pain meds There were some personality changes and she eventually lost her ability to speak, although she could understand what people were saying. She eventually fell into a coma and slipped away after a few days. This was several years ago so hopefully there have been some advances.

Say what you want to say and do what you want to do now while you still can. Don't wait. I wish peace and comfort for all of you.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 12:43 am to
Aunt was diagnosed with this. She went through some aggressive treatment, but degraded pretty quickly. She only lasted 6 months after diagnosis, and they weren’t particularly pretty. Memory loss, delusions, irrational anger. She nearly killed the UPS guy because she thought he was a terrorist that had been casing her house for a week.

Be there for your family member/friend. It'll mean more to them than you'll ever know
Posted by pistolpete23
In the present
Member since Dec 2007
7142 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 1:45 am to
Not with that type... I had a benign meningioma removed 9 months ago... seven words you never want to hear... “you have a mass on your brain”.....

Prayers for your family member...
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 1:47 am
Posted by Bamajedi
Member since Sep 2017
299 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:14 am to
I treat them frequently. Is there anything particular you want to know? Best thing you can do is help them through treatment and please don't let them drive
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15112 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:43 am to
quote:

Look at Jimmy Carter. Guy gets a brain tumor in summer of 15' most figure he's lucky to see Christmas that year. Nearly 5 years later still kicking arse.

Surprisingly Jimmy Carter's brain tumor was metastatic melanoma for which there was no appearance on his skin. Still surprising he shows no effect and still a testament to our doctors and pharma.
Posted by AthensRattler
Classic City, GA
Member since Dec 2013
912 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:47 am to
Father passed from glioblastoma on 27 Feb 2020. It was 2 weeks after the birth of his last grandchild, my daughter. He was 67 at diagnosis and made it 19 months. Tumor was in an inoperable location. Chemo, radiation, and anti-angiogenic infusions. It was brutal, and nearly killed my mother too. Do everything you can to take care of the principal caregiver, because they probably won’t take care of themselves. They had been together since age 15 and had been married since ‘72.

Luckily he never experienced pain or personality change. He had mass confusion and rapidly progressing paralysis. Honestly, I can’t imagine something much worse. Location of tumor (particularly whether or not resection is possible) seems key, but prognosis is nearly always quite poor. After watching what he went through, I would refuse all treatment if I was in his exact situation. Your loved one should listen to the docs, look for clinical studies, etc but please prepare for worst.

I’m still in a fog from it all and expect I will be for a long time. The worst part is the heartache for my mother and never knowing when the last time I truly talked to “him” was. I’ll never be the same, and I miss him so much. I can’t believe he went out like this, it wasn’t fair to watch such an accomplished smart-arse not be able to find the words. He was an Air Force pilot and seemed to only have nouns in his vocabulary that were related to the C-5 galaxy, and hurricane hunting in the C-130. I drive the long way home everyday with my 4 year old son so we can pass a billboard with a C-5 on it, and talk about Papa.

Sorry for the rambling. Please let me know if you want to get in touch and I will help however I can.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17969 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 3:56 am to
quote:

Look at Jimmy Carter. Guy gets a brain tumor in summer of 15' most figure he's lucky to see Christmas that year. Nearly 5 years later still kicking arse.

With advances in pharma crazy shite is possible!

The wonders of not having a glioblastoma.

I got a dui once. Not even a big drinker. It was the night my step mom had got her biopsy back, and it was in fact a glio. I don't recommend this in the slightest btw. Made a difficult and stressful time even worse.

She lasted 19 months, first 12 were surprisingly ok. The one big change after her first surgery was she'd occasionally struggle to say a word, but she could still spell it out. I found that to be fascinating and horrifying at the same time. Step mom never drank, ended up on an alarmingly high dose of methadone by the time it was finished. Just an absolute nightmare to watch unfold in front of you. Kinda fricked me up to watch her and my dad go through it all.

Sadly it has recently been on my mind, as my old man was diagnosed with bladder cancer last monday. Still waiting on surgery, but until we get an accurate diagnosis on how far it has progressed, I just have a cloud of uncertainty hanging over me. Prayers for your loved one OP, and the rest of their supporting cast.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
13414 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 5:54 am to
I don’t want to sound like there isn’t any hope but it is a very aggressive type. Enjoy your time with your loved one and do everything you can with them now.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43301 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 5:55 am to
I lost my aunt to glioblastoma about 5 years ago. It was brutal. She noticed weird cognitive issues first, kind she would be driving somewhere and completely forget where she was going. She'd miss exits on the interstate by 2-3 exits before realizing it, just turn turn around and miss it again. Those kinds of things prompted her to go to the Dr. where they eventually found the cancer. It was deep in her brain and basically no surgery was possible. I believe they found it at stage 3 and it continued to grow through chemo and radiation so eventually they just put her on hospice, the whole process was about 12 months.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66953 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 6:17 am to
My former boss’s wife was diagnosed and made it about 2 months. This was 12 years ago. It was pretty sad. But there are different types with different outcomes. Best of luck.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 6:17 am
Posted by Flyingtiger82
BFE
Member since Oct 2019
1004 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 7:39 am to
I had a friend that had it and passed in 2008. His children were young, and when I talk to them you can tell they have no idea who their father was, as in the kind of man. Neither of them even act like him which is strange. What sucked was he was very young, sweet wife, young kids, and he tried every kind of surgery/treatment there was. The result was that he was wrecked and he still passed many months later. I know he was hanging on so his kids could at least remember him, but it was brutal.

Unless there’s something new out there past 2008 remedies, I would just take pain meds and say goodbye.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17718 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 7:48 am to
Seen less than a year to probably about 5 years it can be a mixed bag
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