re: Anybody ever listen to or read the whole book

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which itself was hypocritical as slavery continued in the north well into the civil war

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Technically the northern slaves weren’t freed until the ratification of the 13th and there were technically still slaves in the Indian territories until a year or two post 13th amendment.





But thems be facts that go against the narrative.

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The South Was Right

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Did not read

That said, the War of Northern Aggression was, like all wars, about money, power, and control of resources. Was need a reason to get the sheep to fight and slavery was the issue of the day. Worst plantation operators in the South was the one in Louisiana owned by Yankee's who did not live there. Same as today. The biggest firms make 3rd worlds out of places not in their home neighborhood.

It is mostly true, and you are indoctrinated

Maryland and Delaware were both border states. Maryland very likely would have seceded had Lincoln not sent troops to the state capital in Annapolis to prevent the legislature for doing so.

I read it, right along with Hitler Did Nothing Wrong and We Swear the Dynasty Isn't Dead

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Of course part of his argument is that I am indoctrinated to believe things that will make him sound like a kook

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That is what you call “the post war consensus,” AKA the victor writes the history books.


Not to defend slavery or the south seceding. In the same way I won’t defend Hitler or Nazism.

All are bad but none of them happened in a perfect vacuum that people want to put them in modern day.

The Kennedy twins make some good arguments.

Based on Jefferson's words in the Declaration of Independence, southern states has the right, and duty, to form their own government

The south fired the first shot at Ft Sumter but the north provoked it by trying to resupply and reinforce the garrison with the Star of the West.

As horrible as human bondage was, the photos and descriptions used by abolitionists then, and the history books now, were the exception and not the rule. Slaves were capital expenditures and were typically treated as such. Would a modern day farmer buy a combine and run it into the ground or change the oil, do preventive maintenance to make it run as long as possible?

Lincoln only issued the emancipation proclamation to prevent England and France from recognizing the Confederate States as independent.

Slavery was a symptom of the states rights issue, not the only cause of the secession - the south could have stayed in the union, pushed for adoption of the Corwin Amendment, and kept slaves as long as they wanted.

If the south woulda won we'd had it made
I'd probably run for president of these southern states
The day young Skynyrd died, we'd show our southern pride
If the South woulda won, we woulda had it made

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I understand the nuance(s) probably more than you’re assuming. As someone else said, it’s probably too complex to discuss on this board.

The civil war did not begin as a dispute over slavery; I’m well aware. And it really pisses some people off when you bring that up.

However - call it what you will - I lose all sympathy for the South due to that horrific institution they relied on and promoted more heavily than any. And yes I know the North wasn’t innocent in that regard either.

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No nuance, it's just a simple logical fallacy.