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re: Any Watch experts here? Dumb question about an old Citizen watch

Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:17 pm to
Yeah I don't think it's automatic because I can vaguely remember him having to ship it off once to get a new battery put in it because nobody in our small town would touch it.

That may have been some other repair though. Man, he was proud of that watch. Never bought himself anything nice, and in the watch world I doubt it's considered a super nice one, but he sure loved it. Was kind of sad seeing it in his dresser drawer after he passed realizing he hadn't worn it in years.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:18 pm to
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It’s a near certainty that you can change the bracelet, but let’s get a bit more info before you turn into the butt of a joke at the watch repair shop.



I'd find somewhere to bring it in for a cleaning/general servicing (likely could use it, if it's not running) and just ask them about what bands they might have that are suitable. He won't be the butt of any jokes asking about his dead father's watch that he just got a hold of.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:38 pm to
Thanks for everyone's help. I figured it'd be easy to swap out the band to one I prefer. I'm going to ship it off to a repair shop in Atlanta that is an authorized Citizen repair place. I'd rather have it done right, with a warranty, than some shady guy in the mall working on it.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:56 pm to
Who got the Tissot
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:08 pm to
My brother. He's more of a watch person, and I really didn't like it all that much. I also got a Seiko dad had, but I don't like it either. This was the Tissot, though I remember it looking slightly different.


This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Dumb question about an old Citizen watch

SENIOR citizen watch.

Have some respect for your elders.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:08 pm to
First, it that is a picture of the watch it is indeed a mechanical watch and does not use a battery. Citizen didn't use Mercedes hands on many of their dive watches but it looks like a B52806 but that would mean it was older than 1980.

As for a straps you have tons of options, NATO, canvas, rubber, and leathers. I have raw and polished stingray on several of my divers and is my favorite non-traditional strap. You want to change the spring bars out as they may have rust and corrosion down inside the, if not visible. You can measure the inside width between the lugs and order a band if you like, they are measured in millimeters and it is likely a 20, 21 or 22mm. While in a perfect world you would use a spring bar tool a small precision screwdriver can be used by most people to get the spring bars out.

The watch may or may not keep decent time, since it has ben sitting so long the oils will have dried out. I wouldn't be surprised if it runs a minute or more fast or slow. You really have three options, run it into the ground if it runs, have it serviced or replace the movement. Replacing the movement with a new one is usually the cheapest route for inexpensive automatics like Citizen and Seiko, though the Seiko movements are easier to source. Without knowing the movement in that particular watch I can't tell you.

If you plan to use it in the water, it needs a new gasket on the caseback at a minimum possible on the crown or a new crown.

The watch being an automatic you can probably start it by gently shaking it back and forth in your hand. I am not 100% that movement will hand wind, some Citizens did some did not. If you unscrew the crown but don't pull it out once unscrewed (position one) turning it clockwise will wind it is if does hand wind. As you pull it out the second position allows you to set the date, do not set the day between about 10pm and 2pm on the watch, it can bugger the date mechanism. On an unwound watch set it to the day before the actual date and run the time around until it changes the date so you know you are at midnight then set the proper time. You can always be safe by setting the time to 6 before setting the date. You can set time by pulling the crown out to the third position. Always rememeber to screw the crown down when finished setting the watch.

If you want the watch serviced etc in BR then go to Watch Repair Inc on Florida.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:23 pm to
Good info. I'll check the serial number on the back of the watch tonight to see what specifically I'm working with. I'm in Birmingham, and didn't really find any watch repair places around I was comfortable with just using Google, so I'm probably going to send it off to an authorized Citizen service place tomorrow. There's one in Atlanta that has great reviews and quick turnaround.


Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 4:40 pm to
That sounds like a plan. While I know it has sentimental value and that changes the entire cost/benefit analysis you can get a new Citizen auto dive watch for less than it will cost to service that one, just throwing it out there for information sake. I personally would get it serviced (well I would replace the movement myself but that is a different story).

If you want to know more about the specific watch (Japanese watches are not my forte') take a picture of the back as well, sign up on Watchuseek.com and post the questions on their Citizen forum and if you don't get much info in a couple of days, it isn't the most active sub-forum, post it on the dive watch sub forum. Someone there will be able to tell you exactly what you have.

Wear it in good health!
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:32 pm to
Tissot makes a solid budget watch, but I’m allergic to 4:30 date windows.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:56 pm to
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Tissot makes a solid budget watch, but I’m allergic to 4:30 date windows.


It is interesting to me how much date hate has exploded in the internet age. I have watches with the no date and dates at 3, ~4:30, 6, grande date at 12, sub dial dates and chapter ring dates and I never really saw them as anything but part of a whole. Now it is often the top critiqued item on the dial, or the watch as a whole. Even the treatment of the date aperture and date/date wheel color is a huge focus. I am much more sensitive to the amount of dial text but have gotten used to that in modern watches, as I look down the Planet Ocean I have on today had 6 lines of text not counting the Omega symbol or Swiss Made.

Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:21 pm to
I’m generally okay with day/date windows wherever as long as they look clean.

Date magnification windows however ruin any watch they are on. fricking gross.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:27 pm to
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Date magnification windows however ruin any watch they are on. fricking gross.


Do you feel the same way about under the crystal magnification like is found on Panerai, along with some Audemars Piguet and Ulysse Nardin? I actually like those but I also begrudgingly accept the cyclops on a Rolex except the new Sea Dweller, an SD should not have a cyclops.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33392 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:27 am to
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It is interesting to me how much date hate has exploded in the internet age.


Go back up to that Tissot above. Close one eye. Slowly close the other. As your vision blurs and the watch’s detail starts to fade, how closed does your eye have to be before you can no longer distinguish that date guichet?

My guess is it’s literally one of the last details you can distinguish before your eye closes entirely.

That watch designer took a silver and blue symmetrical watch and stuck a large bright white blob in the bottom right corner with a slanted numeral in the middle. It’s eye catching.

Now, I understand how Tissot sources their movements, so I understand that compromises have to be made, but more often than not, I would rather not have a date window than to have one forced into a dial when it doesn’t fit.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:31 am to
So I got the watch out last night, and either my memory is completely crap, or the watch I'm thinking of was lost somewhere along the way. It does not have the Pepsi bezel, and the serial number on the bottom cover was almost completely rubbed off so I couldn't even really read it. Had some contractors at the house so didn't have time to really get in good light with a magnifying glass, so I'll try that tonight.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:43 am to
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A good watch repair place can put a nice leather band on it.


Or you can easily do it yourself with a $10 tool from Amazon. It isn't difficult to change a watch band at all.
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
17815 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:45 am to
I have a Citizen Aqualand Promaster 1992 vintage. I sent my watch to the following dude for repair most recently 2 yrs ago. fyi if you can't find anyone local.

CWS
?Craig Johnson
• 800 East Campbell Rd, Ste 200
Richardson, Texas 75081.

I would suggest you change the band yourself.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 8:46 am
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19946 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:51 am to
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This was the Tissot, though I remember it looking slightly different.
if your watch looks like the first pic you posted, you got by far the better deal IMO. a vintage looking diver beats the hell out of that chromed out, new money looking, busy arse chrono any day of the week.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8252 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:52 am to
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Thanks for everyone's help. I figured it'd be easy to swap out the band to one I prefer. I'm going to ship it off to a repair shop in Atlanta that is an authorized Citizen repair place. I'd rather have it done right, with a warranty, than some shady guy in the mall working on it.


I wear Citizens (except for my Seiko Dive watch). I have a Citizen Eco Drive that I needed to get reprogrammed and the crystal replaced. I did business with the Citizen repair center in California. I didn't have any issues. If you write them and describe the issue they'll give you a rough idea of the cost as well as the time it'll take to fix it. Word of caution: Do not send it to them in the original box, you will not get it back. I'm glad I heeded that warning. I've seen people complaining about that, but it's on their repair site.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19946 posts
Posted on 4/24/19 at 8:54 am to
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So I got the watch out last night, and either my memory is completely crap, or the watch I'm thinking of was lost somewhere along the way. It does not have the Pepsi bezel, and the serial number on the bottom cover was almost completely rubbed off so I couldn't even really read it. Had some contractors at the house so didn't have time to really get in good light with a magnifying glass, so I'll try that tonight.
no one is interested in the serial number. just take a pic of the watch.
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