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re: Any recommendations for a fear of flying?
Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:59 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:59 pm to DmitriKaramazov
Drive?
Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:33 pm to AlbertMeansWell
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:35 pm to AlbertMeansWell
You have a better chance of dying in a car wreck. That might help. If music calms you, bring your headphones.. Xanax should work, like someone mentioned.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:38 pm to AlbertMeansWell
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I'm deathly afraid and I have to fly soon.
Man your anxiety is going to start going through the roof when they start the push back and you can feel and hear the engines powering up. It's going to be at an all time high when you feel the sudden G forces push you back into the seat during takeoff.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:45 pm to DarthTiger
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Watch Youtube videos from the inside of planes as they take off and land. That way you'll be familiar with all the sounds and have an idea of what to expect. I did that before I flew for the first time. Also listened to music as we took off. And Klonopin.
I honestly can't relate to this type of anxiety/phobia, not being critical, I just can't fathom it, commercial aviation, with regards to aircraft, crews, maintenance, and air traffic control is so highly regulated, monitored, and constantly updated, there's no other means of conveyance quite like it, I kind of scratch my head at someone who has qualms about the safety of riding on an airliner but has no problem driving on a four lane highway with a speed limit of 70mph and oncoming traffic with a closing speed of 140 mph and a lateral clearance of 4 or 5 feet, and maybe both drivers texting, drinking, not paying attention, etc.,
Posted on 10/10/16 at 4:48 pm to Drew Orleans
Absolutely true. I guess perceived control would have been the better word.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 4:51 pm to AlbertMeansWell
just remember when you half assed that day at work, there are thousands doing it to the plane you fly in. It's maintained by the lowest bidder......on that note chase a xanax with a stiff drink before you board
Posted on 10/10/16 at 5:04 pm to Twenty 49
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I always figure that if it turns to shite, at least it happens quickly.
Not to these folks, this shite haunts my every flight.
Germanwings Flight 9525 took off from Runway 07R at Barcelona–El Prat Airport on 24 March 2015 at 10:01 a.m. CET (09:01 UTC) and was due to arrive at Düsseldorf Airport by 11:39 CET.[2][14] The flight's scheduled departure time was 9:35 CET.[15] According to the French national civil aviation inquiries bureau, the Bureau of Enquiry and Analysis for Civil Aviation Safety (BEA),[16] the pilots confirmed instructions from French air traffic control at 10:30 CET. At 10:31 CET, after crossing the French coast near Toulon, the aircraft left its assigned cruising altitude of 38,000 feet (12,000 m) and without approval began to descend rapidly. The air traffic controller declared the aircraft in distress after its descent and loss of radio contact.[17][18][19]
An altitude chart with a red line curving steadily upwards, then suddenly straight down
Altitude chart (metres)
The descent time from 38,000 feet was about ten minutes; radar observed an average descent rate of approximately 3,400 feet per minute or 58 feet per second (18 m/s).[1] Attempts by French air traffic control to contact the flight on the assigned radio frequency were not answered. A French military Mirage jet was scrambled from the Orange-Caritat Air Base to intercept the aircraft.[20][21] According to the BEA, radar contact was lost at 10:40 CET; at the time, the aircraft had descended to 6,175 feet (1,882 m).[22] The aircraft crashed in the remote commune of Prads-Haute-Bléone, 100 kilometres (62 mi) north-west of Nice.[23][24][25][26]
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:13 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Commercial airliners are retardely safe. The pilots are at the stick for a total of maybe 5 minutes each flight. All passenger planes can withstand losing an engine and still completing the flight. the odds of losing an engine are astronomical. The odds of losing both engines in the same flight at the same time are even more remote; and at that point, you're literally just the unluckiest person in the world if you're on a commercial airliner that loses both engines at the same time mid flight.
I was always terrified. Sat next to a pilot not too long ago, as he was catching a ride home. He talked me through everything that would need to go wrong to take down a commercial airliner. Feel 10x better about flying now. Also, the Zatarran's Kitchen in MSY terminal B serves a pretty filthy double Bloody Mary. Two of those and a wild turkey mid flight and you'll be fine.
I was always terrified. Sat next to a pilot not too long ago, as he was catching a ride home. He talked me through everything that would need to go wrong to take down a commercial airliner. Feel 10x better about flying now. Also, the Zatarran's Kitchen in MSY terminal B serves a pretty filthy double Bloody Mary. Two of those and a wild turkey mid flight and you'll be fine.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:35 pm to AlbertMeansWell
Is it a fear of flying or claustrophobia
John Madden was famous for taking his bus everywhere in his later years. He said "It is not a fear of flying. It is claustrophobia".
Know what the problem is before you can treat it.
John Madden was famous for taking his bus everywhere in his later years. He said "It is not a fear of flying. It is claustrophobia".
Know what the problem is before you can treat it.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:46 pm to AlbertMeansWell
If you're religious, say a prayer at take off- pray for your pilots and flight attendants, and all the others in the air that day. Pray for a smooth takeoff, flight and landing and pray for your friends and family that they all are safe for the day. I used to not mind flying, until I flew through a storm coming back from my honeymoon- we dropped out of the sky, it felt like 1,000 feet, but I'm sure was just bump in the road. I hope to never feel that again on a flight
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:55 pm to upgrayedd
ativan will make you sleep immediately. be careful.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:00 am to Drew Orleans
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Yeah. Go fly around in a Cessna on a windy day. Flying with the airlines after that will be a breeze.
Like the guy in the Skyhawk that recently went in on final to N.O. lakefront. He had never flown, so his girlfriend bought him a introduction flight in the Cessna.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:02 am to AlbertMeansWell
I was extremely anxious during my first time flying. What got me through, and she'll never know this, was a 90-year-old woman relaxed and nonchalant approaching takeoff. I knew that if she wasn't sweating it, then there was no reason for a young man to sweat it, either.
Later on I grew to dread turbulence and landings. Ironically, what helped ease my mind was watching turbulence and landing videos on YouTube. Even the worst ones didn't seem all that bad. It's amazing how technology pretty much rights most scenarios with planes. I figured I could handle anything less than the worst cases I was seeing.
My goto is working crossword puzzles during flights. The really simple ones from dollar stores. They keep your mind, eyes, and hands occupied while all of the strange noises and feelings associated with flight are going on. .
Later on I grew to dread turbulence and landings. Ironically, what helped ease my mind was watching turbulence and landing videos on YouTube. Even the worst ones didn't seem all that bad. It's amazing how technology pretty much rights most scenarios with planes. I figured I could handle anything less than the worst cases I was seeing.
My goto is working crossword puzzles during flights. The really simple ones from dollar stores. They keep your mind, eyes, and hands occupied while all of the strange noises and feelings associated with flight are going on. .
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:09 am to 777Tiger
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, they are just afraid of dying.
I think it's not so much the fear of dying as it is the feeling that one loses all control of the situation when they close the door of the jet, I think that also causes people to be bigger douche bags on a plane than they normally are
^^^this. I have been in a few scary times on a plane and emergency landing. The feeling of NO CONTROL when you drop as fast as a whore that sees a sailor is the worst.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:11 am to cajunangelle
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ativan will make you sleep immediately. be careful.
Xanax puts me to sleep. I get a better non drowsy buzz from Ativan.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 12:34 am to AlbertMeansWell
First thing to know is that planes can't fall out of the sky even if the pilot wanted to. Simple physics. Those bad boys have momentum, speed, and wings. How the hell do you think you go up there in the first place. The engines could all fall off mid flight (will not and never will happen) and your pilot will still be able to bring you down safely.
In fact, the higher you are the safer you are. If you're 37k ft in the air and some big douchebag ghost flips your plane upside down, your pilot is going to spend 1 minute being all discombobulated and the rest of the time bringing the plane down safely.
If you're in a plane then you're in one of the worlds safest spots. FACT. Look at your window, everyone you see is at a greater risk of dying than you. When a plane takes off, think of it as leaving the danger not entering it.
Also, if/when you make it past take off, you're golden. If anything happens (and nothing will ever happen to you) then that's where it would occur. You know you're finally good once the frumpy flight attendant pushes the cart down the aisle. And if you fly southwest there's a 50% chance they "forget" to charge you for your alcoholic beverage
And be forewarned, yes it could feel like the engines are slowing down unexpectedly or there are weird exhaust smells before takeoff or there are lots of random pings or the turbulence seems "extra" bad on your flight, or maybe the wing seems extra worn down or whatever.....
Trust me - you didn't notice anything that ppl a million times more experienced than yo didn't already notice and did not bat an eye. It is VERY HARD for a plane to get cleared to get off the ground with all the passengers (government refs IN ADDITION to the airline companies own internal policies - they certainly don't want a crash). So if you're cleared for takeoff, don't think for a second some sleepy dude just gave the OK.
Finally, remember this - planes never crash due to turbulence. Ever. Not saying it is fun, it it is not putting you more in danger.
In fact, the higher you are the safer you are. If you're 37k ft in the air and some big douchebag ghost flips your plane upside down, your pilot is going to spend 1 minute being all discombobulated and the rest of the time bringing the plane down safely.
If you're in a plane then you're in one of the worlds safest spots. FACT. Look at your window, everyone you see is at a greater risk of dying than you. When a plane takes off, think of it as leaving the danger not entering it.
Also, if/when you make it past take off, you're golden. If anything happens (and nothing will ever happen to you) then that's where it would occur. You know you're finally good once the frumpy flight attendant pushes the cart down the aisle. And if you fly southwest there's a 50% chance they "forget" to charge you for your alcoholic beverage
And be forewarned, yes it could feel like the engines are slowing down unexpectedly or there are weird exhaust smells before takeoff or there are lots of random pings or the turbulence seems "extra" bad on your flight, or maybe the wing seems extra worn down or whatever.....
Trust me - you didn't notice anything that ppl a million times more experienced than yo didn't already notice and did not bat an eye. It is VERY HARD for a plane to get cleared to get off the ground with all the passengers (government refs IN ADDITION to the airline companies own internal policies - they certainly don't want a crash). So if you're cleared for takeoff, don't think for a second some sleepy dude just gave the OK.
Finally, remember this - planes never crash due to turbulence. Ever. Not saying it is fun, it it is not putting you more in danger.
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:47 am to Cold Drink
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The engines could all fall off mid flight (will not and never will happen) and your pilot will still be able to bring you down safely.
I am probably not helping with the OPs problem, but has you can see even though engines have fallen off, like you said in most cases the plane was landed successfully.
•Boeing 747F experienced a number of engine falloffs:
•On Dec 1991, a China Airlines' flight 358, a 747-200F lost an engine near Taiwan and crashed.
•On October 1992, a El Al 747-200F crashed after takeoff due to engine separation, at Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
•Another 747F from Evergreen Airlines lost an engine over Anchorage, Alaska soon after.
•On October 2004, a Boeing 747-132SF of Kalitta Air lost an engine while climbing and landed without further incident.
•In November 2007, Flight CE723, a Nationwide 737-200 lost an engine during takeoff; the aircraft was landed without further incident.
•On December 1987, USAIR FLT 224, B737, lost an engine during climb; the aircraft was landed successfully.
There are cases where engine separation has occurred in B707, B727, and DC-10. aviation-safety.net has a list of engine separation incidents.
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