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re: Any of y’all ever dealt with a runaway diesel engine?

Posted on 10/31/24 at 4:27 am to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 4:27 am to
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How did that operate?


Usually a valve in the air intake. The only way to stop it is to either cut off the air or stall jt.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 4:38 am to
671 Detroit on a pump truck. Air cleaner was off of it. The mechanic that was working on it put the operations manual which was about 4-inches thick, on the air intake and it was sucked into the engine. It shut it down.

Mechanic looked at me, lit a cigarette and said get me the impact with 1-inch socket so we can get this bitch out of the frame.

He was calm like he had seen it happen a dozen times.
Posted by FullFontE
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 4:48 am to
Jeepers Creepers!
Posted by JAXTiger16
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:29 am to
Probably more common than a Tesla catching on fire
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:34 am to
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And yes I have Prince Albert in a can ….


Someone better let him out.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:44 am to
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Probably more common than a Tesla catching on fire


Doubt that
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:45 am to
Air cooled duetz 6 cylinder. Turbo oil leak fed the runaway. The convoluted air system gave me no way to shut it down.

I just got the hell away from it and it only took a few minutes for a piston to seize sending an end cap through the side of the block. End cap was so hot it started a leaf fire. I swear it was shaking the ground on its way out
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:54 am to
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convoluted air system gave me no way to shut it down.


As mentioned earlier, a CO2 fire extinguisher can do it and possibly save the engine.

Or, an O2 line if you want to speed up the process.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 8:24 am to
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Only run away trains. They never coming back.


Denzel got this
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24241 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 8:28 am to
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making it impossible to turn off by simply cutting diesel fuel.

You can always use some quick thinking and destroy your turbo like this guy:
Posted by LSUDUCKMAN67
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Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 8:54 am to
All the older 2 cycle Deisel engines do. Detroit's were famous for it. They should have a emergency door on the air intake where you can pull it and cut off the air to the engine. Working offshore in my early life we had them on pump units as an emergancy shut off. Still have them on the Deisel pump units today.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:12 am to
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Probably more common than a Tesla catching on fire


Doubt that


Actually, it is several orders of magnitude more common. If you're in the right place/time, it's pretty spectacular when an older 18 wheeler does it, just doesn't last very long so all most people see is the truck sitting on the side of the road in the aftermath.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18076 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:18 am to
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How did that operate?

Couple different types. The old mechanical engines had air balance valve that you would preload so that once they went over max rpm the engine would overpower the spring and suck it closed. Setting those was always fun. Then we had manual air actuated valves where you hit a button. Then my series 60 and c1d2 cats were all air actuators controlled by the computer or an override.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:21 am to
had a '72 Ford LTD that used to diesel on shut down, kind of hard to sneak back home after curfew with that
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1340 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:26 am to
I had a mechanic improperly install a throttle linkage on a large Cat diesel. We hit the e stop and the engine took off. We had to manually apply the shut off valve on the air intake before the engine would blow. Fun project.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3154 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:37 am to
The explanation below the video says that the fuel rail stuck.
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1971 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 2:39 pm to
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As mentioned earlier, a CO2 fire extinguisher can do it and possibly save the engine.

Or, an O2 line if you want to speed up the process.


It's just not really something a person prepares for. The excavator was air cooled so the entire rear is an intake and the turbo feeds off that same system. Anything I sprayed in would have mostly just gone through the air cooling ducts.

When it grenaded I was glad I wasn't close to it trying to kill it. The bearing end cap nearly pierced the hydraulic tank.
Posted by bovine1
Member since Dec 2004
1371 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:38 pm to
I've had 2. 318 Detroit (871) in the middle 70's ran backwards on me when I stalled rocking it trying to get out loaded sunk in the field. N14 Detroit around 2010 ran away on Sharkey road. It was screaming and puffing black smoke like crazy. I managed to get it stopped and it finally quit. We called the mechanic and he said that was impossible. I had a witness who farmed right there and saw it. He thought the turbo had swarmed. It turned out to be one of the batteries bouncing up and arcing against the metal battery box top. Messed up the ECM.
Posted by aib799
Member since Jul 2014
577 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:48 pm to
Supposedly the diesel engines on the Deepwater Horizon ingested natural gas from the well blowing out and ran away until they came apart resulting in an explosion. This started all the fires and damage which ultimately led to the rig sinking.
Posted by Cracker
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Member since Nov 2009
19270 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:19 pm to
Tell me how over speed protection stops a runaway diesel?
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