- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Another day, another murderous cop let off the hook
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:59 am to Rebel
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:59 am to Rebel
quote:
I'm glad to see most people are pissed off too. I was hoping I hadn't turned into a snowflake over night.
I'm pretty surprised how this thread has gone. Thought there would be more people defending the officer.
3
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:59 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
once this cop reasonably feared for his safety, it became a clear shoot.
There is no evidence of reasonable fear anywhere in that video other than fear on the part of the dead guy .
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:00 am to Breesus
quote:
They didn't have that footage. So I guess the entire trial was just the arresting officer's testimonies?
No chance this video wasn't part of the trial. Both the prosecution and the defense could claim it would help their case. "At the heart of the prosecution's case was the shaky bodycam footage taken at a Mesa hotel on the night of Jan. 18, 2016. Shaver, a 26-year-old pest-control worker, was in Mesa on business and was with acquaintances at his room. "
quote:
How is it possible that that footage wasn't released until after the verdict?
It was released to the public after the verdict.
ETA: Saw your edit @ the video Breesus
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 10:02 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:00 am to rondo
I had the same feelings when I watched the video.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:01 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
So saying "well this guy was dead even if he hadn't moved " is false, because there is little to no chance the officer
You're speaking as if these police officers are reasonable, rational people when literally all evidence points in the complete opposite direction.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:01 am to UpToPar
quote:
If you want my personal opinion, I think the cops likely were worried that there was another person still in the room possibly armed with the rifle that was reported. I think they didn't want to approach the guy to cuff him because that would have put them in the doorway to the hotel room
That's not a bad thought.
Until you watch the video. And you see them just run past his dead body with no further instructions to anyone in the room and then stand in front of the door in full view of the door and fail to open it 3 times without knocking or announcing themselves.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:02 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
became a clear shoot.
Never did and never will. Jury were as brainwashed as you by a system that explains how these cops aren't required to think rationally. That a simple sneeze could even be met with deadly force as long as the officer perceived it as a threat. You're as fricking dense as this murderous piece of shite cop.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:02 am to slackster
quote:
I'm pretty surprised how this thread has gone. Thought there would be more people defending the officer.
His actions are indefensible. It's a bad shoot and he should have been convicted.
The problem is the video is released and other cops that watch it think that this is okay, lowering the bar further for what is considered justifiable. This seems like it would have been a good place to draw the line.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:02 am to EA6B
quote:
This "procedure" resulted in someone being killed, doesn't seem to work very well.
Unfortunately the only procedure that matters is the one that acquitted the officer. Lawsuits wont change a thing, especially when the officers themselves are almost never personally liable- it is always someone elses tax dollars that pay for guys like this. Its when officers who display piss poor judgement start actually getting punished, thats when things will change.
As it stands this officer will most likely get picked up by another agency, free to enact his "lawful" tactics. His career is far from over.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:02 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Well the procedures are wrong.
Shooting to kill rather than maim like the old ways is also wrong.
Shooting to kill rather than maim like the old ways is also wrong.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:03 am to Breesus
quote:
Until you watch the video. And you see them just run past his dead body with no further instructions to anyone in the room and then stand in front of the door in full view of the door and fail to open it 3 times without knocking or announcing themselves.
Admittedly, I didn't watch the video after the shots were fired.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:03 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
It can both be true that these police at best followed poor procedures and that it was a justified shooting.
But it's not. He wasn't armed and was scared shitless. I don't care how he was trained. Police need to show judgement just like every other profession or face consequences.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:04 am to Breesus
quote:
There is no evidence of reasonable fear anywhere in that video other than fear on the part of the dead guy .
It seems the guy on the ground had more of a reason to fear death than the officers in the room.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:05 am to UpToPar
quote:
Admittedly, I didn't watch the video after the shots were fired.
You should. It invalidates all of those arguments and further proves the complete incompetence of the officers.
The stand in front of the door in silence while one guy fails to correctly swipe the door key card. It would be almost comical if it wasn't so blatantly pathetic and following a heinous murder
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:05 am to Masterag
Awful shoot. Perplexing verdict. Indefensible result. Period.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:05 am to slackster
quote:
I'm pretty surprised how this thread has gone. Thought there would be more people defending the officer.
Same...but that's just how bad it is. Not even the regulars can defend that shite.
Honestly, there are times when I'll see these types of videos and get angry, but this was the first time I was actually shaking knowing I was watching a straight up execution. That guy had NO CHANCE of coming out of that hall alive given the orders that were being barked at him. they may as well have said to recite the US Constitution backwards in Klingon, or they were going to shoot him.
frick...
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:06 am to Breesus
quote:
You should. It invalidates all of those arguments and further proves the complete incompetence of the officers.
The stand in front of the door in silence while one guy fails to correctly swipe the door key card. It would be almost comical if it wasn't so blatantly pathetic and following a heinous murder
yeah they clearly had no concern for the boogey man behind that door.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:06 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
Actually, the guy reaching behind his back after being warned NOT TO is what resulted in him getting killed.
My goodness dude. The cop even admitted it might be difficult to comply with his orders when he said fall on your face, not your hands. Then he let the guy fall on his hands.
He terrorized the guy until he made a mistake. If you can't see that, then you don't need to comment on what a reaosnable person would do, because you aren't one.
And you also made a comment that made it sound like you are a cop. That's a problem right there if y'all can watch this and not see an error in training or judgement.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:07 am to slackster
Only a complete moron with no self worth and no ability to love their fellow man could support this officer. Thankfully even TigerDroppings is few on such types.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 10:10 am to OceanMan
If heyheyhogsalltheway is truly in LE then we need go find his city and badge#. Bc any person who thinks the way he does is a true danger to society.
Page 12 of 19
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News