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re: Another day, another murderous cop let off the hook
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:49 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:49 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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don't either. The correct procedure there with more than one LEO is for one person to cover them with a weapon while the other does a quick field search and cuffs them.
Thank you for admitting the officers were at fault and should be held liable for this death both criminally and civil. Now please kindly frick off.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 9:50 am
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:49 am to Breesus
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Because they were never trained how to handle that situation. Maybe they learned about it in classroom but they were never trained.
Why do you assume that approaching him to cuff him is the correct procedure to follow here?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:50 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:There's a 100% I've detained more armed men than this guy and the majority of cops have and it's never taken 5 fricking minutes and I didn't even speak the same language. You cover the guy, tell him to get on the ground and detain. It's actually very easy.
And you're a fricking idiot who wouldn't lat one day as a cop. Pussy boy with the tough talk. There are PROCEDURES to follow for the safety of everyone. Those procedures are pointing your weapon at people and giving them verbal commands to affect an arrest rather than running up on someone like Chuck Norris and taking them down to the ground to arrest them.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:52 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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There are PROCEDURES to follow for the safety of everyone. Those procedures are pointing your weapon at people and giving them verbal commands to affect an arrest rather than running up on someone like Chuck Norris and taking them down to the ground to arrest them.
This "procedure" resulted in someone being killed, doesn't seem to work very well.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:52 am to OceanMan
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So if it is reasonable to think a man lying motionless is not a threat, why did the cop insist on him not doing that. He forced him at gunpoint to move
I don't know the answer to that. Maybe that is how he was trained. I was trained and trained my people differently.
Order the person on the ground and motionless. Senior officer covers the suspect from at least 10 feet away (when possible) while the junior officer searches and cuffs the suspect.
All I'm saying is that in a situation where a LEO orders a person to move like if the person just lays still and does nothing and the officer shoots them, that's murder 100% of the time. So saying "well this guy was dead even if he hadn't moved " is false, because there is little to no chance the officer would have shot him had he just refused to move.
It can both be true that these police at best followed poor procedures and that it was a justified shooting.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:53 am to Masterag
Holy shite. frick that piece of shite. And the jury that let that psychotic killer go free.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:53 am to EA6B
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This "procedure" resulted in someone being killed, doesn't seem to work very well.
Actually, the guy reaching behind his back after being warned NOT TO is what resulted in him getting killed.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:53 am to UpToPar
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Why do you assume that approaching him to cuff him is the correct procedure to follow here?
Well, for one, the guy was a cop less than 2 years. That's not enough time to know how to handle this situation.
For two:
There is no way in hell the correct procedure is to literally tell the guy:
Get on your knees and while keeping your ankles crossed and your hands high in the air crawl towards us while ignoring and suppressing all instincts to balance yourself or we'll gun you down with extreme prejudice.
That's not an exaggeration. That's what they told him.
Get on the floor where you are right now and try that.
Then imagine doing it with a .3 BAC with 5 officers pointing loaded rifles at your head and screaming at you.
That's what you think the accepted procedure is?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:54 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Actually, the guy reaching behind his back after being warned NOT TO is what resulted in him getting killed.
You really are a fricking idiot who cannot gauge a situation apparently.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:55 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
so many bootlickers.
If you can't acknowledge that was a crime you are probably one of these dipshits that have "I got your 6" decals on your car.
If you can't acknowledge that was a crime you are probably one of these dipshits that have "I got your 6" decals on your car.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:55 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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There are PROCEDURES to follow for the safety of everyone
So in your expert opinion, that video from start to finish is a shining example of perfect police procedure?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:56 am to Breesus
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Thank you for admitting the officers were at fault and should be held liable for this death both criminally and civil. Now please kindly frick off.
I admitted no such thing. Your are just too simple minded to understand that it doesn't matter what the police did or did not do here, or what the procedure they were trained to use is, once this cop reasonably feared for his safety, it became a clear shoot.
SOme of you are dumb motherfrickers who simply aren't capable of discussing complex issues, but you try anyway.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:56 am to ShreveportHog94
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don't know about yall but I want to go home every night to my family
And that right there is the problem with some cops. They love putting on the badge and vest but have no appreciation for the level of danger that SHOULD be part of their job. Sorry but this murderous piece of shite in the video is no different.
As I posted earlier if no risk to life and everyone going home at night is a reasonable standard we should be shutting down our fire departments.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:56 am to Breesus
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That's what you think the accepted procedure is?
No, I asked why you think approaching the guy to cuff him is the correct procedure.
If you want my personal opinion, I think the cops likely were worried that there was another person still in the room possibly armed with the rifle that was reported. I think they didn't want to approach the guy to cuff him because that would have put them in the doorway to the hotel room. That's why I think they made the decision to have the guy move towards them before detaining him.
I think it could have been handled much better, but I don't think the answer was a simple as telling the guy to lay there and approaching him to cuff him.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:57 am to tiderider
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did the cop know who pointed the gun out of the window? .
He didn't even know which room those people came out of.
The hotel hallway is situated with 2 rooms at each inlet not visible from the cops point of view.
For all he knew those people came out the other room and had no idea what was going on and nothing to do with the situation at all.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:57 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Oj Simpson was innocent
Casey Anthony was innocent.
I mean that was the verdict, it's stupid to question verdicts, right?
Casey Anthony was innocent.
I mean that was the verdict, it's stupid to question verdicts, right?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:58 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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So saying "well this guy was dead even if he hadn't moved " is false, because there is little to no chance the officer would have shot him had he just refused to move.
Did you even watch the video?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:58 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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once this cop reasonably feared for his safety, it became a clear shoot.
you keep saying this.
1. If he really feared for his safety, then he is in the wrong profession. He is a pussy that can just go around gunning people down and saying he feared for his safety
2. All you need is his word? "I feared for my safety!" If you are capable of putting yourself in his shoes...would you have feared for your safety there? If so...you're a pussy.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:59 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Actually, the guy reaching behind his back after being warned NOT TO is what resulted in him getting killed.
And if he had just laid there and been shot after being told not to just lay there, you would say just laying there after being warned NOT TO is what resulted in getting him killed.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 9:59 am to 6R12
I bet that guy the cop murdered wanted to go home too.
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