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re: An update, honestly if anyone cares...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:18 pm to SouthernHog
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:18 pm to SouthernHog
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I showed her an EWTN Mass so she would have an idea but she said it was too boring.
It's the most perfect worship of God.
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I tried to tell her, her Church only started in 1500.
Probably not a good idea to poke the bear and argue with her. But I would ask her what is it about her church she attends for and loves.
Just do your thing and pray about it. Ask the Holy Spirit to open her heart. There's high likely hood that but seeing your dedication and joy in the mass it will convert her. or at least peak her interest.
Always keep in mind that he is scrutinizing your faith so respond mindfully and kindly to her doubts and skepticism. It's hard for me to not be argumentative with people who reject the Catholic Church, but I'm learning to pray for God to defend his Church because I am not skilled enough to do so with the kindness of Jesus.
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Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:19 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:My personal hopes, not necessarily my professed beliefs.
For clarity, these are your personal beliefs, correct?
However, the predominant Christian Universalist stance is that all will be saved by Christ, ultimately.
Most of them don't even deny some kind of hell/punishment.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:20 pm to SouthernHog
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I tried to tell her, her Church only started in 1500.
1st church wins? Which one was that exactly?
2 predictions:
1. Your religion division will be your relationship division
2. Your narrow view of the world will be your narrow view of the world.
Good luck.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:20 pm to Snipe
quote:Diven Liturgy anyone??
It's the most perfect worship of God.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:20 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I bet most Protestant/non-denominational 14 year olds have a better grasp of God’s word than 50 year old Catholics.
I've known several adult Catholics that don't know John 3:16
They just thought it was a sign people hold up at football games.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:21 pm to GreenRockTiger
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this is not true - going to a daily Mass does not fulfill the obligation for a Sunday Mass
No that is not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is alternating weekends still meets the obligation to congregate with other Christians on Sunday and devoting that day to God.
What I meant about daily mass was if there was a concern about not receiving the Eucharist on the Sundays he does not attend Catholic mass, he could receive it during the week.
Ideally, you would go to Catholic Mass every Sunday, but in this situation I'm proposing a compromise for he and his fiance. As a Catholic, my hope is that it would eventually lead to her seeing the beauty of the mass and start attending it with him every weekend.
In a non ideal situation such as the proposed compromise, at least he would be devoting his Sunday to God as he obliged too, but on the weekends where he does not go to mass, he could receive the Eucharist by attending one of the daily masses.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:21 pm to bayoubengals88
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My personal hopes, not necessarily my professed beliefs.
However, the predominant Christian Universalist stance is that all will be saved by Christ, ultimately.
Most of them don't even deny some kind of hell/punishment.
Could you tell me more about how that theology fits in with the theological idea of judgement?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:22 pm to SouthernHog
I kind of felt bad for you in the first thread, but honestly after this thread you're clearly just an arse hole and i kind of hope you marry this braud and yall are miserable 
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:23 pm to Giantkiller
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There are many paths to God.
No, there aren't. There's one... and only one... and that is to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. There are no other paths to God.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:23 pm to REB BEER
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And then haul arse out of the parking lot like a scalded dog because 90% of the people at mass don't really want to be there.
Can't be late for a Saint's Noon kickoff game or if you go to the Saturday vigil, a LSU kick off at 6:30.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:24 pm to King of New Orleans
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I grew up Baptist and now attend a non denominational.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:24 pm to Snipe
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Just do your thing and pray about it. Ask the Holy Spirit to open her heart. There's high likely hood that but seeing your dedication and joy in the mass it will convert her. or at least peak her interest.
Man this is such a strange line of dialogue when referencing a professed follower of Christ. You speak of her as if she is not even saved.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:25 pm to SouthernHog
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I tried to tell her, her Church only started in 1500.
Wait until this guy finds out about Vatican II.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:25 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:People are judged for their sins, but Christ's love wins in the end.
Could you tell me more about how that theology fits in with the theological idea of judgement?
I don't know what it would look like.
Technically, I think that conditional immortality/annihilationism is an easier position to hold. Again, I'm merely a hopeful universalist.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:26 pm to MemphisGuy
quote:the vagueness of this concept has driven me mad over the last five years.
to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:28 pm to Snipe
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It's hard for me to not be argumentative with people who reject the Catholic Church, but I'm learning to pray for God to defend his Church because I am not skilled enough to do so with the kindness of Jesus.
As a protestant, this is the way. Without taking anything away from missionaries and ministers, it's okay to trust that God will defend His Church. We may disagree about what that means, but if we're both genuine in our pursuit of Christ, we should have faith that His will is going to prevail. Far too much contentious argument and not enough truth seeking dialogue happening within religious groups who make a claim to Christianity in one way or another. I can really appreciate your perspective on this
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:28 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:I didn't read it that way at all.
Man this is such a strange line of dialogue when referencing a professed follower of Christ. You speak of her as if she is not even saved.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:29 pm to bayoubengals88
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People are judged for their sins, but Christ's love wins in the end.
That's an interesting perspective. I admittedly struggle with how the two ideas can be congruent with each other. If Christ's love wins in the end regardless of our trust placed in him or not, what exactly is the point of evangelism at all? If even unbelievers will be saved in the end, what difference does it make if we preach the gospel or not?
I get where you're coming from because Hell is a long time, it really sucks and it's a very real thing. I get why people are uncomfortable with the idea but I also cannot go as far as to dismiss the judgement the bible speaks of.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:30 pm to SouthernHog
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I still know Catholicism is the way to go for me and our family.
But how will you convince her?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 2:30 pm to bayoubengals88
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I didn't read it that way at all.
We speak of conversion as something that happens when an unbeliever becomes a believer. The post spoke of "converting" someone who is already a professed believer in Christ. The new testament is full of people worshipping differently but all submitting to Christ. It's weird to me to box it in like that.
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