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re: Amputee seeks damages after United Airlines and airport security seize scooter batteries

Posted on 4/29/19 at 9:47 am to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132609 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 9:47 am to
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Hodge had received that permission.


Did he have proof of that?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48576 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 9:50 am to
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Rules are rules

Those batteries cant go on planes.

This is discussed on your ticket purchase agreement small print



Except that it is allowed in this circumstance.
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Lithium-ion batteries are a potential fire hazard, but global standards issued by the International Air Transport Association (IATA) allow people with disabilities to travel with compact lithium batteries for medical devices in carry-on luggage.

Hodge said no one from CATSA or United Airlines would listen to him or read IATA documents he had printed out, showing his batteries are permitted on board if an airline gives prior approval. Hodge had received that permission.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51596 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 9:52 am to
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Why wouldn’t he have a prosthetic leg to attach where he could walk? He still has one good leg

Thanks Obama.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11480 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:08 am to
root cause of problem is that he is Canadian using Canadian medicare. The 2000 $ battery would never be allowed by US medicare. Instead a 200$ gel cell would be provided which is acceptable on most int'l airlines. My wife scooter probably went around the world 8-9 times
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:08 am to
If it was in the US, it would be ADA vs TSA. ADA would win out, but the world would collapse shortly thereafter.

We had to take a two hour course on how to ship lithium batteries. What I learned was to just give them to the FedEx/DHL people, and let them deal with it. Too complicated for me
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But how do you allow that type of battery on a plane when it is known to burn up at high altitudes?
There is a size limit per battery, and also total, that you can bring on a plane
This post was edited on 4/29/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26983 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:09 am to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19948 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:10 am to
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Rules are rules


Rules have exceptions.

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Those batteries cant go on planes.


Yet hundreds of cellphones with lithium batteries are on every one of those flights. Every single one more likely to be a fire hazard than what this scooter has.

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This is discussed on your ticket purchase agreement small print


Maybe you should actually have read that agreement before posting. Because they ALL have similar language covering this:

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In most cases, up to two larger lithium batteries (more than 100 watt hours, but not exceeding 160 watt hours) are permitted in carry-on baggage if the terminals are properly covered or insulated. If you are traveling with a battery-operated mobility device, please see our Special Travel Needs section.


And according to that section arrangements can be made for such scooters, no outright ban. The question is whether or not he made such arrangements and had the documentation.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:17 am to
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Instead he choose to make a huge deal out of this. Roll with the punches and adapt. It isn't that hard.

or better yet, he could just lay down and let everyone walk over him. Wouldn't that be easier?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:18 am to
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Wouldn't that be easier?

a lot easier than him trying to walk over someone
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6823 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:28 am to
That plane ticket cost him an arm and a leg.
Posted by tigercubs
RVA
Member since Jan 2010
2454 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:35 am to
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Having to crawl across the floor in front of my wife is the most humiliating thing that I can think of," said Hodge. "It unmasks how real my disability is … I haven't been the same since."


This is complete bullshite. You've been married to this woman for 43 years and lived with the disability for 35. At some point it pretty much becomes "a new normal".

I've been an amputee for the last 22 years and just about anybody who has known me for any amount of time, much less my family, has seen me hop, crawl, slide, whatever across the floor to get somewhere. This dude is either incredibly insecure or more likely, milking this for everything it's worth.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12200 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 10:47 am to
Those 35 years must have been really bland, if this is the worse.

Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
67137 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:26 am to
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But on a trip to Tulsa, Okla., on Feb. 26, 2017, an agent with the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority (CATSA) and a United Airlines official told Hodge to remove the $2,000 battery from his scooter and fly without it, as well as his spare battery.

Can't check a lithium battery. This is known by anyone who can read a sign, a website, or listen to the 13 announcements the gate agent makes prior to boarding while their begging to check bags to your final destination.

Guy should have checked the rules and at least had a way to remove them. Being on a scooter, I know he had to do some research before flying.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
67137 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:28 am to
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And according to that section arrangements can be made for such scooters, no outright ban. The question is whether or not he made such arrangements and had the documentation.

Had to. He wanted attention. That, or he ignored the language. He has to have done some research before flying.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:29 am to
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This is complete bullshite. You've been married to this woman for 43 years and lived with the disability for 35. At some point it pretty much becomes "a new normal".


Yeah this is what I was thinking too. 43 yrs is a long time to be embarrassed still in front of your wife. I mean in that time shes had to have seen him crawl on her. Ha

He's definitely being dram, but he'll win something cause companies have been cucked by the legal system. Most thinking he wont win have to remember he'll be in Canadian courts not ours.

I guess my question is where was he going to put his wheelchair when on the plane?

The shady part starts with...who celebrates an anniversary in tulsa, ok??
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:32 am to
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he'll win something cause

the airlines would rather pay someone to STFU than have the prolonged negative pr that a trial would bring
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23541 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:41 am to
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If those are the rules then he doesn't have a leg to stand on.


Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 11:44 am to
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the airlines would rather pay someone to STFU than have the prolonged negative pr that a trial would bring


Right. My whole been cucked cocked part. So he'll come out on top somehow. Therefore winning.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:12 pm to
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Yet hundreds of cellphones with lithium batteries are on every one of those flights. Every single one more likely to be a fire hazard than what this scooter has.


not so fast. the power cells for the scooter are MUCH larger and not as robust as cell phone battery tech.

The Value Jet crash in FL years ago was due to these batteries.....granted they were in the cargo hold.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 4/29/19 at 12:16 pm to
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The Value Jet crash in FL years ago was due to these batteries...

no, that was caused by mislabeled(intentionally) oxygen generators
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