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re: America is Over-Medicated

Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:01 am to
Posted by TripleBarrelBluff1
Sin City
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:01 am to
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Well...it's because almost everyone you encounter in real life, or here, these days, is probably under the influence of some prescribed barbituate


While your premise is not entirely wrong, almost no one is on barbiturates any more.
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:01 am to
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 6:23 am to ClientNumber9
What really started irritating me is the kids. Mostly boys being boys. An “overactive” boy is not set up for success in the current education environment.

Classes are set up for everyone to be in line and behave, recess being cut shorter and shorter, little to no sunlight, fricking atrocious food programs, and it’s the kid’s fault he is bored out of his mind and acting out?

Sadly this is because women typically enter the education workforce. Not that this is insidious, they just don’t understand boy behavior. They do not understand the educational system in the context of young boys, so the standardized testing system of education begins to fail them.

Do our trades guys really need 4 English classes in high school? They need geometry, trigonometry, maybe a general life class of understanding mortgages, insurance, investing for the future, how 401k’s work…basic understanding of useful subjects. Maybe entrepreneurship classes, how business loans work, startup costs…subjects that may interest them. Not English, vocabulary/spelling. A greater importance needs to be on social studies and how our Representative Republic is supposed to work, not the democrat hijack of “democracy” nonsense spewed.


Nailed It
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 10:56 am to
I've been fortunate to not need prescription drugs on any kind of regular basis. I was prescribed muscled relaxers after a car accident for my neck; threw them away because they made me feel like garbage. PT did the trick. A few years later I was prescribed Percocet for post surgery pain; never used one. Just stuck with Tylenol.

It always floors me the amount of pre-bagged prescription fulfillments I see on hand at any given time I've visited Walgreens. It's wall to wall. I'd be very surprised if everyone of those prescriptions are 100% medically necessary.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34100 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:18 am to
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any of our farm products come to us from the field covered in glyphosate and other bad stuff.


No doubt about that, but I would rather eat vegetables than eat McDonalds or some other ultra-processed foods.

In a better America, we dont have to make the choice of possibly contaminated veggies v McDonalds.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
4009 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:00 pm to
Holy shite that’s accurate
Posted by SpeedyNacho
Member since May 2014
2565 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:05 pm to
As a child that was medicated on ritalin, and mass doses of adderal. Last resort is right. While it did help, the side effects, and pills they put you on for the side effects are even worse. I feel like every kid just being a kid is being put on medication these days! Good for you for being leary
Posted by Highway_Man
Member since May 2014
327 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:09 pm to
I fought hard with my wife not to medicate my kids when they were young and won.

Now they're doing great. Two have straight As, and one is more all As/Bs. All in honors, AP, etc.

Proud of myself for standing up to that BS.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 12:10 pm
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22982 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:40 pm to
It is hard to get prescriptions for barbiturates. The more commonly prescribed drugs are SSRIs and ADHD meds.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17645 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:49 pm to
Everyone needs to wonder why a high percentage of commercials are all from Big Pharma.

Pfizer has been around over 100 year and never cured anything.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7141 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:48 pm to
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Sadly this is because women typically enter the education workforce. Not that this is insidious, they just don’t understand boy behavior. They do not understand the educational system in the context of young boys, so the standardized testing system of education begins to fail them.


All the teachers I know (including the women) think elementary kids need more recess time. They all think there needs to be less standardized testing. It's got nothing to do with women understanding boy behavior. Blame this mostly on politicians. They pass laws that many educators are stuck with. Blame it on high up education administrators. They pass policies that teachers are stuck with. This is not going to change until parents revolt and refuse to allow it anymore.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:41 am to
I appreciate all the responses...

Thanks...





Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20471 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:03 am to
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fought hard with my wife not to medicate my kids when they were young and won. Now they're doing great. Two have straight As, and one is more all As/Bs. All in honors, AP, etc. Proud of myself for standing up to that BS.


I refused the stimulants. Dr suggested a non stimulant that does ok in helping with her focus. Still A’s & B’s so far.

My wife is always mad because I am anti medication. Unless I am on the verge of dying I will not take anything. I am sure my liver thanks me.
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10434 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:47 am to
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As a child that was medicated on ritalin, and mass doses of adderal. Last resort is right. While it did help, the side effects, and pills they put you on for the side effects are even worse.


I had a similar experience.

I was diagnosed ADHD (I think it’s bs) and my parents kept me off any meds until 10th grade. I started out taking vyvanse then switched to 72 mg concerta.

I fricking hated that shite. It made me anti social, suppressed my appetite big time and I could barely sleep. The anti social aspect was really big, I didn’t want to talk to anyone and was always in a bad mood. Made me almost depressed feeling if that makes sense.

It didn’t really help me stay focused either as my mind was working overdrive on it so I was always day dreaming or bouncing around 100’s of different thoughts.

Got off it senior year and never taken that or adderral again. Went to college and got a masters degree so I turned out ok.

TLDR: do not put your kids on ADD meds that shite is awful
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9708 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:53 am to
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Pills won't ever cure you or fill that hole in your heart. Only God can do that.


That's because you don't mix them with enough or the correct alcohol.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69399 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 11:10 am to
We live in an industrialized society. Our school systems were founded on the principles of producing soldiers and factory workers. Both jobs require absolute obedience and people to act as identical interchangeable parts who can communicate without speaking. Our education system selects for these skills and anyone who doesn’t conform to that mold is ostracized or medicated until they do.

Our medical psychology system isn’t meant to make people healthy, but rather to keep them productive, obedient, and identical. They don’t care about your happiness or long term health. Much like a sports medicine doctor, the goal is to get you back on the factory floor as fast as possible.

Pre-industrial society understood that there were more roles in life than soldier or interchangeable factory worker. There were roles in society that fit all kinds of people, and what education that did exist was not nearly as “one size fits all” as today’s hyper-specialized system.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33923 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:03 pm to
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1) a lot of these psychiatric issues occur bc of terrible parenting and abuse/trauma as a child. It’s staggering. There are so many dead beat parents that are more consumed with entertainment than raising their kids.


and we reward them for this
Posted by Question
Member since May 2020
302 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:59 pm to
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and we reward them for this

Not saying I agree/disagree with you, but how so do you think we reward bad parenting? The problem seems that the American dream is recently promoted as it being all about yourself, instead of something bigger than yourself. Growing up, my grandfather was so invested in raising up his children and grandchildren, not just so we would have a better life, but that we would know how to thrive in life and keep it going. Today, that seems like a foreign concept.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19127 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:17 pm to
Medical schools teach doctors to prescribe medicine or surgery for almost everything instead of behavioral/lifestyle changes.

Told my old PCP that I had some anxiety and he prescribed me klonopin and Zoloft. I didn't say I had panic attacks and didn't say it was even that bad. Ended up just exercising a bit more and not drinking as much and it went away. He was no longer my PCP.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19127 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:20 pm to
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My wife (soon to be ex, getting separated) has been on Wellbutrin for 10 years. I absolutely think that shite contributed to our marriage failing.

She tries to downplay the side effects while also claiming she needs to be on it.

She admits that over the same time frame she has been less and less affectionate, etc but refuses to consider that it's to blame or even could be.

wtf.


Those drugs can be major libido killers.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19127 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Add to it that both male and female hormones are totally out of whack. Testosterone levels are very low. Females getting periods earlier and earlier.

And no one on the Left is asking any questions on why this is?


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