re: Am I the only one struggling to sympathize with celebs and multi-millionaires…

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Are you purposely ignoring the fact that California didn't keep their infrastructure updated to prepare for water and fire fighting resources? Could they stop it from happening, no. Could they have managed it better, yes.

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I know this will be a futile post that will be downvoted and bashed due to people just not wanting to hear or acknowledge it, but here it goes......

There isn't a city or town in this country that could have managed this fire in a way that it wouldn't have been disastrous on a large scale. I don't think many people understand the timeframe that this fire developed within, where it started, or how it progressed.

The fire started in a neighborhood. It was first reported at 12:37pm their time (the thread here didn't get started until just before 6pm). Structures were under threat immediately. By 1:00pm the fire was reported to be spotting (due to wind-driven embers) up to a mile and a half ahead of the main fire. At 1:06pm the first report of a neighborhood being at threat for total involvement came in. By 1:23pm it was pushing quickly westward towards a very heavily populated area of three neighborhoods. By 1:46pm the fire had crossed Palisades Drive (a major highway that would have served as a fire break if dealing with a "normal fire").

It was at around 1:46 that reports of the first mandatory evacuation orders were made (the order came out a bit before this. This is the time it was reported on socials). By the time that evac order was given, people were already fleeing and roads were blocked by abandoned vehicles. Blocked roadways would become such a problem that fire response couldn't get into many areas, and bulldozers were brought in to clear roads.

By 2:35pm (one hour after the first fire report) the fire had been confirmed to have spread under heavy winds up two miles west of the first report which put it into a more commercial/business area. By 2:45pm structures on Sunset Blvd. (including a fire house) were involved.

This rate of spread went on for the next few hours with more neighborhoods and commercial areas becoming involved. At 4:18pm the first mapping of the main fire put it at 772 acres (not including some areas of spotting). By 5:23pm it was mapped at 1,261 acres. By 6:30pm it was in Topanga Canyon.

By midnight that night they were dealing with a fire that had active involvement of structures in an area of 6 square miles.

A tragedy is a tragedy regardless of who the participants are. It would be different if it was criminals getting treated criminally by another person. In this instance, yes they voted for the people who ultimately screed them over or did what they wanted without understanding the consequences.

At the end of the day, you should have sympathy for their loss but you are by no means required to assist when this is a consequence of their prior choices and priorities.

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Those people are stupid for not having fire breaks in their zoning to keep this major event from happening. 150 billion dollars with a damage b******* I feel bad for them for losing all of their property. Stupid is is stupid does.

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You probably shouldn't be talking about shite you clearly do not know about.

This fire jumped every natural or man-made fire break in its path: fire roads, creeks, small public roads, recently burned over areas, ridges, retardant lines, and major highways. Why? Because it was driven by hurricane force winds with gusts of 85+. It was sending embers a mile and half or more ahead of the fire.....wind-born fire. In less than twelve hours time there was active fire with structures involved in an area encompassing roughly six square miles.

Plus, the fire started in a neighborhood with homes directly threatened before any response was on scene.

This is speaking to the Palisades Fire. The Eaton Fire had similar characteristics.

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At the end of the day, you should have sympathy for their loss but you are by no means required to assist when this is a consequence of their prior choices and priorities.

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My favorite was the poster in the mega thread saying this was deserved because they didn’t show proper empathy or support after Katrina. He then chose to act the exact same way as those he supposedly hated.

You could have had a piece of paradise for under a million on the PCH a week ago. Just watched a 20 Min YT vid of a dude on an e-bike cruising up the 1 yesterday. He came across the property and there was zero proof it ever existed except for the address sign at the enterance

Palisades Bowl | Mobile Homes Malibu

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But they have fire breaks to protect their property.

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In a fire like this it would have slowed the spread almost as much as a hurdle slows down Tobi Amusan. Unless they have a mile of land with no fuel on the perimeter of their timber it would just be charcoal the next morning.

Some of y’all are fricked up but at least you seem aware

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Is that just me?

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Nope,

Fck em.

They don't care that I live or die either.

If the Kardashians were in a plane crash I wouldn't blink an eye.

They wouldn't blink an eye if I was in a plane crash either.

I read a similar summary in the WSJ.

That fire moved at incredible speed...