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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:47 pm to slackster
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:47 pm to slackster
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Why though? He didn't pull out his weapon when they pulled out the Taser. He didn't pull out his weapon as they were standing there. If you pull out your gun and he does as well, you shoot him. If you pull out your gun and tell him not to make any sudden movements towards his waist, and he does, you shoot him.
I gotta agree with this... However.. From the time the cops arrived and the shooting is what I want to see... What happened to the suspect before the video started... Did he act crazy???? What caused EVERYTHING..... And sorry folks, But if he deserved to get shot... so be it... AND for ALL the protesters Go find something else to do... You are just looking for a reason to screw things up and destroy things cause you think this guy was just a law follower[ which he was far from]. So chill out..............
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:47 pm to tigerbutt
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Same video but clearer.
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There you go, That video is clear.
That might be one of the officers body cams with the flashing red light. Which I could definitely see that style falling off during a struggle.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:47 pm to XxxSpooky1
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Right arm was free and raising.
Sure looked like it.
I'm already tired of having to hear about this. A person at work, "How is he going to reach for a gun when he's on his stomach with his hands behind his back and the cops have their knees in his back?" I wasn't about to interject myself into that shite.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:48 pm to Dire Wolf
Absolutely it does. I have no doubt now that their actions were justified.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:48 pm to RB10
quote:I'm not assuming 100% safety, I'm speculating on what may have been safer.
Again, you're assuming the suspect is unable to draw a weapon before a shot is fired. That's not the case all the time.
If a dude has a gun and has taken 2 shots of a tazer and not gone down, you are not safe.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:49 pm to rt3
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WWL-TV ?@WWLTV
Chants of "Hands up, Dont shoot", outside of the Triple S store in #BatonRouge #AltonSterling
Ironically, if he had said "Hands up, Don't shoot" he would still be alive today.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:49 pm to tigersownall
Just saw this. Pure OT gold right here.
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A crowd gathered outside the Triple S Food Mart beginning Tuesday afternoon and continued well into the late evening, becoming hostile at times. WAFB opted to leave the scene at one point after a reporter was robbed of his iPad while standing across the street from where the shooting happened. Police were called and the suspect was arrested.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:50 pm to shel311
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I don't see how that is terribly probable.
The cops had just attempted to taser him, and failed. So, it's not like they were standing at the ready to pull their weapons and you don't see any way he could get a gun out? Particularly if theirs were still holstered and clipped?
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And the route they chose didn't put them in immediate danger?
Sure. Id rather try to tackle a guy than possibly have a gun pulled on me though.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:50 pm to shel311
OK... That's it.. Just saw the mom and son crying like this guy was a fricking saint.......... Sad indeed.......
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:50 pm to shel311
A massive point is that they tried non-lethal force first. There was not an intent to kill until the non-lethal force didn't work and the suspect continued to resist while in possession of a deadly weapon.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:51 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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Ironically, if he had said "Hands up, Don't shoot" he would still be alive today.
Yep...even more ironic is that the "hands up, don't shoot" pretext was proven to be false from the outset.
These fools don't seem to care about building a foundation made of sand though...
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:51 pm to Titus Pullo
quote:After cop 2 yelled about him having a gun, you didn't see a clear scuffle between him and the cop? You don't think there's any chance that scuffle was over the perp possibly going for a gun?
You're fricking crazy. That was a straight up execution at point blank range from what I could tell on the video. But we will see how it pans out. I couldn't tell on the video but it didn't look like the dude pulled the gun on the cops. Looked like they found it on him, they said don't move. He blinked and the cop shite him at point blank range.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:51 pm to tigerbutt
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Same video but clearer.
He was pretty clearly moving his right arm at his side like he is reaching for something. The cops clearly verbally warned him multiple times to not do so. At least that's what I saw from what you posted. And he was still moving/struggling after the first two shots are fired.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:52 pm to jbgleason
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WAFB opted to leave the scene at one point after a reporter was robbed of his iPad while standing across the street from where the shooting happened
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:52 pm to RB10
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When trying to control a situation? Yes.
But you're acting like they effectively controlled the situation when anything but that actually happened.
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Unless you want to tell me people tend to calm down when weapons are drawn, and I'm not just talking about the suspect. If you honestly believe that then you're not even worth arguing with.
FFS the alternative decision was that they tackle the man and take it to the ground with an armed perp who is significantly larger than them. Just because they went that route doesn't mean you have to jump through hoops to justify it. It is entirely possible they fricked up with that choice.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:52 pm to adamb2151
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How are the protestors saying "Hands up Dont shoot."
It's never about a single incident, but the countless that occur prior. Their opinion was made as soon as they heard white officer shoots black man. Video could come out of him holding a gun to the head of someone when police pulled up and he would still be the gentle giant. These protesters are paid to incite the populace of high crime areas, especially youth who see what those on the other side of town have and think it is do to skin color that they don't have those things. They follow the protesters and the truth is a secondary story. When facts roll in the family and BLM mouthpieces will be spewing hate and yelling about twenty other topics to keep people's eyes from seeing the facts. Public and media will blindlessly follow along and the DA will push for a higher crime than what they can possibly prove beyond a reasonable doubt. The defendant will get off because of this and then the aftershocks from the initial riots will ensue. No one will remember the facts only white cop black man no charges.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:53 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:The 2nd video does a better job of showing some sort of scuffle between cop 2 and the perp, right after the cop yells about him having a gun.
That second video doesn't make the cops look any better.
Still not 100% conclusive, but I think video #2 does favor the cops even moreso on top of the 1st one.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:54 pm to BluegrassBelle
And his head lifts up off the ground like he was lifting up to reach down towards his pocket. Sad situation but the right outcome.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:54 pm to jbgleason
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WAFB opted to leave the scene at one point after a reporter was robbed of his iPad while standing across the street from where the shooting happened. Police were called and the suspect was arrested.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 4:54 pm to jbgleason
How do they get all this time off work to protest / riot / loot / steal...
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