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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread

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Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:02 pm to
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His hands were spread Eagle out and they tackled Him.


I doubt they were asking him to stand there with his hands raised to his sides. They probably asked him to get down to his knees.

If you don't do what an officer ask you to do after several request, especially in an incident where officers are on the scene after an armed confrontation, then the officers are in their right to make the individual compliant.

That's not even a debate.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19241 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:02 pm to
Leading story on cnn. Wolf blitzer
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:02 pm to
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And the GUTLESS media will NEVER say what needs to be said.....


Go on
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:02 pm to
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But you're acting like they effectively controlled the situation when anything but that actually happened.


I've not once acted like that. Subduing a suspect with drawing weapons should always be the priority. Pulling firearms should be a last resort.

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FFS the alternative decision was that they tackle the man and take it to the ground with an armed perp who is significantly larger than them. Just because they went that route doesn't mean you have to jump through hoops to justify it. It is entirely possible they fricked up with that cho




Just because you're naive enough to believe when cops pull their guns everyone listens and cooler heads prevail doesn't make it true.

The exact opposite is what happens most of the time. When a gun is pulled, by anyone, the situation becomes more hectic because people panic.

You're labor in under the delusion that drawn guns cause calm, which is asinine.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8605 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:03 pm to


Why isn't anything scheduled for Friday & Saturday?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216434 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:03 pm to
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His hands were spread Eagle out and they tackled Him.


The COPS were wrong in shooting him.... I agree... There was another way out.... But that doesn't give people the right to tear shite up....
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:03 pm to
I don't understand what the argument is anymore. A 3 page criminal, carrying a weapon (which I dont think felons can do), was given every opportunity to comply. Knowing himself armed, and black, he chose not to. Cops still gave him a verbal (clear as day warning) once they keyed on his firearm. He still didn't comply. The shot him.

The world moves on.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112841 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:03 pm to
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These officers risked their lives to take down an armed, resisting suspect
Yes. the dude had a gun and didn't seem to go down after being tazed twice, no matter what the officers did their lives were certainly in danger.

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Was the safest for everyone around
I don't agree. And i'll say again, I may not even be correct, but I think it's 100% fair to ponder that my take may be correct. I don't see in any way how it could just be tossed aside as automatically wrong, I just don't see it. I think it has merit.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216434 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:05 pm to
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Go on



Watch CNN and see how they respond to the GUESTS they have on.. Esp the Black guests.... Just watch...........
Posted by Kujo
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112841 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:06 pm to
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Just because you're naive enough to believe when cops pull their guns everyone listens and cooler heads prevail doesn't make it true.
I've legit lost count at the number of times you've made things up.

It's pretty interesting to watch play out.

Just completely make up what you think the other person is saying despite him saying nothing nowhere near that. Again, can't lose a debate that way, undefeated!!!

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You're labor in under the delusion that drawn guns cause calm, which is asinine.
There's another one. He never said it would cause calm. In fact he said guns drawn until backup arrives, so he actually assumed it may not cause calm. But again, you made up in your head something he never said...again.
Posted by XxxSpooky1
A place in SE La
Member since Sep 2007
5163 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:06 pm to
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The COPS were wrong in shooting him.... I agree... There was another way out.... But that doesn't give people the right to tear shite up...


Uh, how?
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15780 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:06 pm to
Looks like it's turning into a shite show on the local BR news.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:06 pm to
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hich video was that on?

First Twitter video in this entire thread. Look in his arms right before they tackle him they are spread out in the air sideways. Take a look. Then send me a downvote t to indicate you are blind
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32561 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:07 pm to
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Why isn't anything scheduled for Friday and saturday
because people are off work... Duh
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 5:08 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:07 pm to
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be correct, but I think it's 100% fair to ponder that my take may be correct. I don't see in any way how it could just be tossed aside as automatically wrong, I just don't see it. I think it has merit.


Um...

You're the one who said there was "no debate" as to which was safer.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40192 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:07 pm to
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that doesn't give people the right to tear shite up....


Lakeisha says we should all protest and demonstrate. And she be mad.



Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:08 pm to
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on cnn

Turned it on a couple minutes and exactly what I figured. No facts other than he was a father. Everything else was riot inciting bullshite
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:09 pm to
The cop saw an opportunity to end the confrontation without the threat of lethal force and tried to take it. It worked at first, since he caught the guy off guard and got him to the ground. From there, they were unable to restrain his right arm, which was under the car. If that car isn't there, we might not even be discussing this.

The cop clearly thought he could restrain the perp without involving lethal force. Sadly that didn't end up being the case.

I tend to think that, even given what happened, this was the best approach to use in this particular situation.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216434 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 5:09 pm to
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Uh, how?



How what????
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