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re: Allison Rice murder investigation

Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:11 pm to
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We'll be able to tell if suddenly that guy and Paul Rice both get tight-lipped about this witness existing after having the police chief meet with them to tell them "hey, stfu about this witness stuff, yes he exists but just trust me, you can't talk about it right now".


Paul could have done that in their private meeting today instead of calling the man a liar to his face
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5261 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:11 pm to
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I wonder if the police know there wasn’t a car on the other side of the tracks

Or maybe they know the train never came to a full stop.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103858 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:12 pm to
Which opens up a few possibilities and I don’t see any of them being good for BRPD.

They think the guy really doesn’t exist, they know he exists and are lying about it, or they know the witness is a phony and are refusing to talk to Kiran or the father about it.


If the last one, they probably think discrediting Kiran is worth it. It will bite BRPD in the arse HARD if this is the case though, as they are ignoring a grieving parent who is telling them about a professed witness to the case.
Posted by Chef Curry
Member since Mar 2019
3097 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:21 pm to
You’re giving BRPD entirely too much credit. No way these idiots are playing 3D chess.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:22 pm to
The more they talk about that witness.

The more they potentially put the witness in danger.

So if I am the witness I don’t want a lot of talk about me either.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1461 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:23 pm to
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I have a hard time seeing a guy killing a girl at 2:30 am calling the police the next day to give a witness statement.


He claimed that he heard shots but couldn’t see exactly what was happening since it was on the other side of the train; he took off when he heard the shots and heard the next day about the girl getting murdered.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68221 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:25 pm to
If this witness exists and gave an accurate statement, BRPD will have a whole warehouse of egg on their face.

The statement by the shed owner from broome about being recorded tells you these people live in a world that doesn’t exist.
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1353 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:26 pm to
The Shed owner said the witness is scared and doesn’t want his name out. Also Broome and MP finally admit there are at least 8 gangs wreaking havoc in BR. If the two are related then this witness is either very brave if he’s real or very dumb if it’s a hoax. Either way might get him killed.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:27 pm
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7056 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:26 pm to
The main thing in the witness narrative is there are two people who allegedly was there. The one talking and a passenger. Maybe the police tried to corroborate and the witness wasn't being honest.

Like others have said it could be there's evidence that straight up contradicts the evidence they have.

I've thought about the narrative as something a lawyer for a suspect would put out to get a sense of believability.

The people on this board accept that it could be dudes in hoodies. Read other forums and there a lot of talk about the victim buying drugs. You can get a sense of what might create "reasonable doubt"

There is also something that hasn't been mentioned is that someone was a passenger in the car with the victim and got out and shot her and it wasn't random. Who knows what might be on video or the phone of people who were in that area.

There are so many unknowns.

I pray for the family every day bc it's a tragedy.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68221 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Maybe the police tried to corroborate and the witness wasn't being honest


The cops said that they have no idea who this witness is.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:31 pm to
If she was trying to buy drugs, there would either be drugs or money in the car or Drugs in her system. That would be easier to figure out.

Given she had a reason to be there and was leaving a local business and headed home and alone I doubt she was buying drugs.

A girl like that is not going to that part of town at 2:30 am to buy drugs alone. There are plenty available on LSUs campus. There has been no indication that any of that is even true.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:34 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103858 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:34 pm to
I thought other places were pushing the “jilted ex” argument hard even though that has been shot down by the cops calling it random.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68221 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:35 pm to
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Read other forums and there a lot of talk about the victim buying drugs


Get the frick out of here with that completely made up bullshite.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7056 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:35 pm to
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The cops said that they have no idea who this witness is.


Is it possible they got on touch and the first thing they asked was who was in the car with you?

If the witness didn't give a name is he the witness since he now has a narrative that wasn't the same as the Kiran scoop.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
55880 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:38 pm to
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The main thing in the witness narrative is there are two people who allegedly was there. The one talking and a passenger. Maybe the police tried to corroborate and the witness wasn't being honest. Like others have said it could be there's evidence that straight up contradicts the evidence they have.


If that’s the case during the private meeting with the family friend or when Paul or one of the detectives spoke to the Dad they could have said right now the witness information is not adding up, we are going to ask that you keep this information to yourself instead of flat out saying Kiran is making it up when the family friend & the dad have both spoken to this guy

quote:

Read other forums and there a lot of talk about the victim buying drugs. You can get a sense of what might create "reasonable doubt"


Nothing about the girl indicates drug use
If there was any indication that it was a drug deal gone bad they would have motive
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:42 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60508 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:42 pm to
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Read other forums and there a lot of talk about the victim buying drugs

In all honesty - if she wanted drugs - she could’ve gotten some from the crowd at red stick social, somewhere by where she lived, or even co-workers
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10731 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:44 pm to
They should have some video from various businesses along the other side of the street that will show any cars in the area around the time of the murder.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
55880 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:48 pm to
That was something else that was said in interview, no one has been by the business that’s right there to access their cameras
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10659 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:49 pm to
You could rule out drugs by getting sworn statements from those what were with her before and those that are close to her (friends/acquaintances). You can't hide drug use, or a need to obtain drugs. Everyone around you has an idea.

I don't think it's wise to go head on with the supposed witness. You put the witness in danger, and potentially scare away a suspect. You have to work smarter than that.

And, you can't really give a tell if you have a lead because you could scare the suspect off or get ambushed.

My timeline for this has always been by the end of the weekend. The PD should have enough (info, personnel, and strategy) to narrow this down by the end of this weekend.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:52 pm to
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Read other forums and there a lot of talk about the victim buying drugs. You can get a sense of what might create "reasonable doubt"


For frick’s sake.
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