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re: Allison Rice murder investigation
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:59 pm to TDsngumbo
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:59 pm to TDsngumbo
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I'm kinda starting to believe the police are intentionally pretending the witness doesn't exist because it's essential to the investigation. If he talked to a detective that The Shed's owner can call out by name, that's very specific and makes me believe the owner of The Shed may have unintentionally given secret information to the public by saying that. Really starting to wonder if the police not acknowledging this witness is by design
I hope so.
I want to believe that no one is that incompetent.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 5:59 pm to TDsngumbo
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That's an interesting angle, not gonna lie. I also still hold some belief that the police aren't acknowledging the witness so as to make him think he's insignificant when in reality they think he's the biggest suspect. Maybe by pretending he doesn't exist they think he won't get spooked and leave.
I would consider this type of scenario but to me and just IMO this is much less likely since the witness had someone else with him.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:01 pm to Swoozie
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It seems like the witness would know that and would stop trying to get them to acknowledge him.
Maybe it's a crazy person who randomly shot and killed this girl but is also a drifter who can leave at any moment. He kills her then freaks out and decides to make up this elaborate witness testimony to try to make sure he has an alibi for when the police inevitably figure out he was at the scene at the time.
"Of course I was there, officer. Remember I gave you my witness statement but I took off when I heard those shots. That's why I was there".
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:01 pm to joemuggs
quote:why isn’t the second person saying anything?
since the witness had someone else with him.
There could be a number of reasons - but if both came forward that would be great
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:02 pm to Swoozie
After that press conference I don’t think the police are intentionally holding anything back. They look so lost that they would jump at any chance to save some face.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:02 pm to joemuggs
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I would consider this type of scenario but to me and just IMO this is much less likely since the witness had someone else with him.
But do we know he had someone else with him? That's what he's claiming but that detail could very well be an oversight in a crazy delusional mentally unstable person who decided to kill someone for the thrill then panicked and decided to make up a witness testimony to cover his tracks as to why they eventually find out he was there at the time.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:03 pm to TDsngumbo
if that was the case, the family should have been made aware of it well before the press conference today...
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:04 pm to TDsngumbo
All the more reason to placate him into thinking you’re taking him seriously as a witness.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:04 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:I think everyone needs to chill out about the witness for now. Often times information that only the killers would know are hidden from the public. It could very well be that the witness statement contradicted something they know to be true, or they want to keep some information secret.
I wonder if the police know there wasn’t a car on the other side of the tracks and just don’t want to say
Or they know there was one and don’t want to look like idiots
I'm not ready to say it's incompetence or laziness until everything is known.
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I'm kinda starting to believe the police are intentionally pretending the witness doesn't exist because it's essential to the investigation. If he talked to a detective that The Shed's owner can call out by name, that's very specific and makes me believe the owner of The Shed may have unintentionally given secret information to the public by saying that. Really starting to wonder if the police not acknowledging this witness is by design. We'll be able to tell if suddenly that guy and Paul Rice both get tight-lipped about this witness existing after having the police chief meet with them to tell them "hey, stfu about this witness stuff, yes he exists but just trust me, you can't talk about it right now".
basically what this guy said
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
They should be talking to all witnesses. This one could be full of shite, but they should interview him and make that determination.
And we keep talking about “the” witness.
He had a friend with him, so there are potentially two witnesses.
And we keep talking about “the” witness.
He had a friend with him, so there are potentially two witnesses.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:04 pm to pussywillows
Communication with anyone has not exactly been this department’s forte.
It’s hard to tell what they are trying to play dumb about and what they really ARE dumb about these days.
It’s hard to tell what they are trying to play dumb about and what they really ARE dumb about these days.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:04 pm to TDsngumbo
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Chief Paul told him he believes the witness doesn't even exist.
None of this makes any sense didn't the witness say the police eventually talk to him (i think he said he talked to the detective twice) the issue was just that it took are really long time and lots of phone calls ....
This honestly sounds like a huge dumbass miscommunication or something. Which is a really bad look for BRPD.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:05 pm to TDsngumbo
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Maybe it's a crazy person who randomly shot and killed this girl but is also a drifter who can leave at any moment. He kills her then freaks out and decides to make up this elaborate witness testimony to try to make sure he has an alibi for when the police inevitably figure out he was at the scene at the time.
That’s definitely a possibility.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:05 pm to joemuggs
Everything has been a bad look for BRPD since MP took over.
They hired someone that LSP would have fired if they could and made them their chief when I’m not sure he was competent enough to make a pot of coffee.
They hired someone that LSP would have fired if they could and made them their chief when I’m not sure he was competent enough to make a pot of coffee.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:06 pm to TDsngumbo
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when in reality they think he's the biggest suspect.
I have a hard time seeing a guy killing a girl at 2:30 am calling the police the next day to give a witness statement.
That kind of puts him on the radar as a potential suspect.
But then again criminals are not known for their rational thinking.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:06 pm to joemuggs
No doubt. Whatever the truth is, it's a terrible look for BRPD.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:07 pm to Logician
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It could very well be that the witness statement contradicted something they know to be true, or they want to keep some information secret.
So they pretend he doesn’t exist?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:07 pm to OysterPoBoy
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So they pretend he doesn’t exist?
Baw, I don't know. I'm just spitballing here.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:08 pm to joemuggs
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None of this makes any sense didn't the witness say the police eventually talk to him (i think he said he talked to the detective twice) the issue was just that it took are really long time and lots of phone calls .... This honestly sounds like a huge dumbass miscommunication or something. Which is a really bad look for BRPD.
I have to go back and watch it again but I think it started when they wanted accountability from BRPD on ignoring the witness for some time then MP replied that he didn’t think the witness existed.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 6:11 pm to Narbona
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I have a hard time seeing a guy killing a girl at 2:30 am calling the police the next day to give a witness statement.
That kind of puts him on the radar as a potential suspect.
But then again criminals are not known for their rational thinking.
i agree with you i don't think this is what happened at all, but just playing along with the what if's it would be a way to explain away if your vehicle being caught on camera or seen in the immediate vicinity.
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