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re: All electric Ford F-150 Lightning pre-orders hit 100K
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:18 am to stendulkar
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:18 am to stendulkar
Cool truck for soyboys
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:19 am to baldona
quote:I can't speak necessarily for, say, some of the super charging stations in California where there are way more Teslas, but the typical super chargers along interstates for road trips, this has never been an issue. Everywhere I've traveled, there's always way more than 2 stalls, and I'm not sure I've ever seen a station more than half full.
EV chargers take a lot longer so you pull up and the only 2 around are full you are fricked for a long time.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:21 am to TDTOM
quote:How his family does a road trip isn't a "problem" that's just how they manage time on a road trip. There's no right or wrong. Obviously an hour is way on the high end, but I'd say for a family with 2+ youngish or younger kids, I'd guest most don't realize how much time they actually spend stopping at gas stations, for food, etc. on a road trip and would likely come out at least somewhere close to equal time if they were doing so while stopping at super chargers to charge.
That is a you problem.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:33 am to shel311
I guess if you want to spend half your day fricking around at gas stations or charging stations you may be right.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:44 am to stendulkar
Imagine when thousands of Texans overload the grid charging their automobiles at the same time. This is gonna be a disaster.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:48 am to LSUKTR
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Why are EVs the future?
How about the fact that O&G is a finite energy resource and we still need hydrocarbons to manufacture other things and we save those resources for that, while using EVs for transportation without too much of a downside for most people/applications?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:49 am to BZ504
Nah they will just get a bunch of NG generators. Defeating the environmental appeal of an EV.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:00 pm to BZ504
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Imagine when thousands of Texans overload the grid charging their automobiles at the same time. This is gonna be a disaster.
Imagine stoping at a typical Buccees with 200+ gas pumps on a busy day and all those people now taking 20-30 minutes to charge, instead of 5-10 minutes to fill up.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:03 pm to EA6B
quote:No thanks, no matter what car I'm driving
Imagine stoping at a typical Buccees
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:09 pm to Traveler
quote:Group living is really the perfect arrangement for EV charging. It's cheaper per station to install dozens of chargers in rows than it is to install them at dozens of homes, and it's an added revenue stream for the complex.
Which opens another point of discussion, for those that live in apartments, dorms, barracks, etc where they would have to budget and plan charging away from home into their schedules.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:33 pm to BorrisMart
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300 is less than the smaller tank options.
The 300 mile range also assumes you’re hauling 1k pounds iirc.
This is first gen. I would be shocked if the electric version doesn’t match or straight up beat gas offerings in range by gen 2.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:40 pm to stendulkar
I’m getting one of those things.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:43 pm to EA6B
quote:Imagine how much less busy Buccees would be if all those people could "fuel up" at home overnight instead?
Imagine stoping at a typical Buccees with 200+ gas pumps on a busy day and all those people now taking 20-30 minutes to charge, instead of 5-10 minutes to fill up.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:45 pm to BZ504
quote:With the majority of charging taking place at night when there is ample extra capacity, EVs can actually ease the peak load during the day by powering homes directly when needed.
Imagine when thousands of Texans overload the grid charging their automobiles at the same time. This is gonna be a disaster.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:52 pm to LSUKTR
quote:Most families who take long de-stress vacations have two vehicles, I would imagine. The yearly fuel savings from an EV would pay for that entire vacation in the other vehicle.. gas, lodging, food, fun.
They don’t make sense for how we use our vehicles. We just took a 2,000mi road trip, driving 12 hrs each way, straight through. We couldn’t have done that in an EV. Vacation is to de-stress; an EV would have added stress.
quote:Why not? We've done the same for fossil fuels for a century. Do you take issue with that?
What I do have a problem with is that EVs will only be viable through the significant use of my tax dollars….and I just don’t see it as necessary to forcefully speed up adoption.
quote:Like what?
Tax payer funded infrastructure
quote:IMO, EVs are the future mostly for long-term energy independence and stability reasons, both at a national and individual level.
for what? More torque? Faster acceleration? Why are EVs the future?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:54 pm to Jim Rockford
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Comes with LED truck nuts? Asking for a friend.
They come in blue for guys with electric trucks
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:54 pm to Korkstand
So, I hope they have mechanics lined up for this. Tesla has a network of folks for their vehicles.
Nothing on a Ford ever breaks, so it's probably not a big deal.
Nothing on a Ford ever breaks, so it's probably not a big deal.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:00 pm to Korkstand
quote:I feel like we do this every single EV thread, and no one ever is able to grasp that. In a gas car, virtually 100% of getting gas is done at a gas station.
Imagine how much less busy Buccees would be if all those people could "fuel up" at home overnight instead?
In an EV, I don't know the actual number, but I'd guess it's extremely small, way less than 50%, I'd guess very conservatively, of charging is done in public with the overwhelmingly majority of charging being done at home.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:54 pm to shel311
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with the overwhelmingly majority of charging being done at home.
At what percent of the population charging 4000lbs vehicle x 50miles/day @ up to 70mph including periods of stop and go (a lot of energy) does the energy demand (above and beyond every current existing demand) become unsustainable in populated areas?
We can upgrade energy infrastructure, but there will be a cost associated with it. At what point does this electricity cost exceed the equivalent price of gasoline? Keep in mind this cost of electricity will be applied across all home electricity use, including air conditioning, fridge, washer, etc...
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 1:57 pm
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