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re: All electric Ford F-150 Lightning pre-orders hit 100K
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:36 pm to G2160
Posted on 6/12/21 at 2:36 pm to G2160
quote:If the grid can handle summer afternoon AC consumption, then it can handle overnight EV charging no problem. It will smooth out the daily peak-trough cycle of energy demand, and could actually drop the peak grid requirement by using energy stored in the EV during high demand periods.
At what percent of the population charging 4000lbs vehicle x 50miles/day @ up to 70mph including periods of stop and go (a lot of energy) does the energy demand (above and beyond every current existing demand) become unsustainable in populated areas?
We can upgrade energy infrastructure, but there will be a cost associated with it. At what point does this electricity cost exceed the equivalent price of gasoline? Keep in mind this cost of electricity will be applied across all home electricity use, including air conditioning, fridge, washer, etc...
If energy costs go a bit higher, then the ROI of rooftop solar gets more attractive.
And this will obviously be a very slow process. It's not as if we will drop millions of EVs on the grid overnight. But we could easily add millions per year. Let's call it 3 million EVs added per year (10X more than the current rate of sales), which would be about 45 billion miles driven, which would be roughly 22 billion kwh of additional power required per year. With US consumption around 3,800 billion kwh per year, this would represent a little more than half a percent of additional capacity required per year. Does that sound manageable?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:30 pm to G2160
quote:I don't know, no idea the answer to your question.
At what percent of the population charging 4000lbs vehicle x 50miles/day @ up to 70mph including periods of stop and go (a lot of energy) does the energy demand (above and beyond every current existing demand) become unsustainable in populated areas?
Do you know?
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:13 pm to shel311
quote:
Do you know?
If I knew I would’ve just told you.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:19 pm to G2160
quote:So the question, while important for those who know the answer or can speak to it, really didn't mean anything from your side? I guess I don't get why it came up then. That sounds sarcastic, but I truly don't mean it that way. If you have no lean or knowledge(I don' either) on the answer, then it's not really any point you're making, right?
If I knew I would’ve just told you.
But looking above, 1 dude did take a stab at answering it. Not saying it'll be something that's just easy peasy, but it's something that will be a slow and gradual build up, which would make it much more feasible compared to if we just woke up tomorrow or even 1 year from now and assumed 50% of all cars would be EVs.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:32 pm to Korkstand
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With US consumption around 3,800 billion kwh per year, this would represent a little more than half a percent of additional capacity required per year.
tOT: IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:37 pm to stendulkar
The extended range is $50K+. -7500 tax credit, then with taxes and some interest, back at $50K.
Not exactly inexpensive. F150 XLT's can be had for $35-38K precovid.
GL to those owning one past warranty.
Not exactly inexpensive. F150 XLT's can be had for $35-38K precovid.
GL to those owning one past warranty.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 4:45 pm to lsu xman
quote:A $5-8k difference would more than likely easily be made up and if you owned for 5 years, the total cost of ownership would probably be lower with the $50k(and $7500 tax credit) than the $35-38k gas vehicle.
The extended range is $50K+. -7500 tax credit, then with taxes and some interest, back at $50K.
Not exactly inexpensive. F150 XLT's can be had for $35-38K precovid.
quote:Yea, 1st gen is always tricky. You don't want to buy 1st gen with all the kinks needing to be worked out, but the people who do buy 1st gen are the reason why others are able to get the better versions down the road.
GL to those owning one past warranty.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 5:04 pm to shel311
Fixing EV trucks might not even be bad if its non-battery related. Once theres a huge abundance of trucks available, and many in the wreckyards, used drive unit motors can be obtained and much easier to replace than an ICE motor.
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