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re: All "Deep South" metro areas (MSAs) ranked by 2023 population (according to U.S. Census)
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:49 am to NOLAManBlog
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:49 am to NOLAManBlog
It’s very strange that people seem to be taking it personal that St. Tammany was dropped from the Nola MSA
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:54 am to lsupride87
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It’s very strange that people seem to be taking it personal that St. Tammany was dropped from the Nola MSA
It's not personal, it's just not logical.
I believe it was posted earlier where 25% of the outlying area's economic output was related to the urban center. How is that not applicable to St Tammany and Orleans?
What would happen to Mandeville's population and economy if Nola sank into the ocean tomorrow?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:The logic is based on actual commuters into the city
It's not personal, it's just not logical.
Less than 25% of St. Tammany residents commute into Nola for work. That’s the logic. The end
If Nola sank into the ocean that’s going to have MASSIVE effects on the entire gulf coast for 100s of miles. Should they all be part of the Nola MSA?
And to answer your question if Nola sank into the ocean St. Tammany would have a population boom, not decrease
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 10:59 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:00 am to NOLAManBlog
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Ok, let's tear down the unsafe Causeway bridge since they don't need the Southshore anymore
You realize what the opinion of most people who live on this side of the lake would be, right?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:00 am to GetMeOutOfHere
Correct. I can’t speak to the 90s but there is a very clear overall disdain for New Orleans in St. Tammany from my perspective currently
River Ridge was “I love Nola, but it isn’t safe enough”
Mandeville is “frick that shithole”
Painting with a broad brush obviously with both of the above
River Ridge was “I love Nola, but it isn’t safe enough”
Mandeville is “frick that shithole”
Painting with a broad brush obviously with both of the above
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:10 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:11 am to waiting4saturday
Don't lump the Northshore in with that shite hole of a city.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:39 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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My sister and BIL live in West Midtown and have for almost the past decade.
It is a great area. Very livable....if you ain't old and crotchety like me LOL. My son lived in west midtown before moving to Buckhead and cusses the decision almost daily LOL....
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:42 am to lsupride87
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lsupride87
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. They are. The end.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:44 am to dallastiger55
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Black Mecca
Atlanta has always had a sizeable black middle class...since the late 1800s anyway. It has been called Harlem of the south for many years. The Atlanta University Center is the largest collection of HBCUs in the nation and has existed since the late 20's.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:47 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Quite literally Mandeville is not in the Nola MSA
I'm sorry, but you are wrong. They are. The end.
Not an opinion. Earth is round, Pluto is not a planet, Mandeville isn’t in Nola MSA
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:58 am to AwgustaDawg
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Atlanta has always had a sizeable black middle class...since the late 1800s anyway. It has been called Harlem of the south for many years. The Atlanta University Center is the largest collection of HBCUs in the nation and has existed since the late 20's.
Black population in the city proper has been declining for 20 years now and is expected to bottom out in 2030. This is a combination of several things. White, Asian, South Asian, and Hispanic people are actually moving into the city of Atlanta. Same thing can't be said for Birmingham or New Orleans.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 11:59 am to lsupride87
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Quite literally Mandeville is not in the Nola MSA Not an opinion. Earth is round, Pluto is not a planet, Mandeville isn’t in Nola MSA
It is hilarious everyone grilling you on this.
Facts don’t care about feelings. This is based on commuter data.
The comments about what a mandeville person says out of town is one thing.
Saying that the northshore is definitively in the New Orleans msa is completely wrong
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:08 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Other than jobs, opportunity, higher wages, relatively low cost of living, relatively low crime rate compared to comparable cities, excellent health care, excellent education, one of the highest quality of living ratings in the US, mild winters, bearable summers, rare natural disasters, regional hub of commerce and worldwide hub of transportation, opportunity to attend world class events and cultural doings there really is no explicable reason anyone would want to live in Atlanta. Why anyone would want to live in what is the Capital of the South Eastern United States is mystifying....
There are a few things that as a fairly frequent visitor I strongly dislike about the Atlanta area in particular...the traffic...and the state of Georgia as a whole...the arrogant elitist attitude of a significant % of native Georgians who have the attitude that their s### doesn't stink and act like the state as a whole is a sophisticated utopia devoid of any shitty run down redneck areas like the rest of the South because they share a state with Atlanta, etc but I agree with this.
Traffic in Atlanta does suck and the suburban sprawl in a bad way is becoming LA like but to argue that Atlanta (the city and the metro) is a s###hole instead of the economic powerhouse and world class city it unquestionably is is a weird take. Atlanta has all the amenities of a world class city and has become one of the great large cities/urban areas in the U.S. It has been and will for the foreseeable future be the unquestioned king of the Southeast economically with huge job growth historically not to mention a massive international airport where you can catch a direct flight to almost anywhere. It's obvious why it's such a popular area for job seekers and families across the country to relocate to.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:10 pm to Adam Banks
Pride is literally going to die on this hill, and that’s fine .. it’s a free country .
It all reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men where Kevin Bacon asks the soldier on the stand to “turn to the page i the official Marines manual where it talks about Code Reds”.. when the soldier can’t find it, Bacon says well then there’s no such thing as a Code Red.. then Cruise intercepts the book and asks the soldier to turn to the page in the manual where it says where the mess hall is.. “Well sir, it’s not in the book”.. “So you never had a meal the entire time you were at Gitmo ? How did you know where the mess hall was IF IT’S NOT IN THAT BOOK ?”.. “Well sir, i guess i just followed the crowd at chow time “…. Pride’s “MSA data” is the official Marines manual in this scenario .
It all reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men where Kevin Bacon asks the soldier on the stand to “turn to the page i the official Marines manual where it talks about Code Reds”.. when the soldier can’t find it, Bacon says well then there’s no such thing as a Code Red.. then Cruise intercepts the book and asks the soldier to turn to the page in the manual where it says where the mess hall is.. “Well sir, it’s not in the book”.. “So you never had a meal the entire time you were at Gitmo ? How did you know where the mess hall was IF IT’S NOT IN THAT BOOK ?”.. “Well sir, i guess i just followed the crowd at chow time “…. Pride’s “MSA data” is the official Marines manual in this scenario .
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:11 pm to Fun Bunch
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I'm sorry, but you are wrong. They are. The end.
no, he's not.
NEW ORLEANS - METAIRIE
Metropolitan Statistical Area in USA
Edit to Add (due to awesomely fitting article title)
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The term "Northshore" or "North Shore" refers to areas that lie on the northern shore of Lake Pontchartrain and includes St. Tammany Parish. The Northshore includes the communities of Mandeville, Covington, Madisonville, Abita Springs, Lacombe, Eden Isle and Slidell. Hammond and Ponchatoula, in Tangipahoa Parish, and Bogalusa and Franklinton, in Washington Parish, are also considered to have economic ties to Greater New Orleans although those parishes are frequently not included in the statistics for the New Orleans Metropolitan Area.
New Orleans metropolitan area facts for kids
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:13 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Atlanta has always had a sizeable black middle class...
It has the largest black middle/upper middle class population of any city in America and has for pretty much forever.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:14 pm to ronricks
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Black population in the city proper has been declining for 20 years now and is expected to bottom out in 2030
I said pretty much the same thing in response to another poster earlier ITT.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:21 pm to Bluefin
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Most of the violence in South Carolina these days is between Ohio transplants and New Jersey transplants fighting over the corner unit of an apartment complex that mysteriously appeared overnight.
Not sure where we're going to put them all. Perhaps they should
#GoBackToOhio and #GoBackToNewJersey.
Someone did try to stop the growth by burning one of the apartment buildings down during construction, though I don't recommend this approach.
LINK
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:25 pm to BK Lounge
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it doesn’t change the fact that Mande/Cov isn’t just A suburb of New Orleans- it is in fact THE suburb of New Orleans
That would be Metairie?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 12:26 pm to BK Lounge
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Pride is literally going to die on this hill, and that’s fine .. it’s a free country . It all reminds me of the scene in A Few Good Men where Kevin Bacon asks the soldier on the stand to “turn to the page i the official Marines manual where it talks about Code Reds”.. when the soldier can’t find it, Bacon says well then there’s no such thing as a Code Red.. then Cruise intercepts the book and asks the soldier to turn to the page in the manual where it says where the mess hall is.. “Well sir, it’s not in the book”.. “So you never had a meal the entire time you were at Gitmo ? How did you know where the mess hall was IF IT’S NOT IN THAT BOOK ?”.. “Well sir, i guess i just followed the crowd at chow time “…. Pride’s “MSA data” is the official Marines manual in this scenario .
Prides overall point is that things are changing and as with everything about New Orleans people in NOLA proper still think it’s 1970 and that the region and state revolves around them. The MSA data shows that the north shore now stands on its own. Something that seemed crazy even 20 years ago. The attitudes of the people living there reflects that. They see themselves as separate. Just because you don’t think it’s true doesn’t mean that it isn’t.
Leadership in the city and the state need to wake up.
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