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re: ALL but 20 - yes 20 - of Italy’s deaths had other health conditions.

Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:13 pm to
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All of Italy's victims under 40 did not have preexisting conditions and neither have us.



I find this hard to believe
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:14 pm to
You willing to push them boomers off that cliff baw
Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:14 pm to
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The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology.


They didn't look at all of Italy's deaths, just 18% of them. In that 18%, only 3 had no previous pathology.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:15 pm to
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The problem is there are some young healthy people getting really sick. But they are able to recover after a couple days on the vent


Italy, who is out of ICU space and ventilators has managed to save all of the young healthy people under 50 alive. ALL of them. Every single one. There have been 17 deaths of folks under 50 and all under 40 had serious prexisting medical conditions.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 11:34 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:16 pm to
Over 99% had high blood pressure, heart disease or diabetes. This isnt killing healthy people like past seasonal viral infections.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:17 pm to
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Over 99% had high blood pressure, heart disease or diabetes.


Which, tbh, is not super great for america's population. We have those 3 in spades.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45425 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:18 pm to
Thinning the herd?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:19 pm to
No shite?






























Said no.one with half a brain...EVER!
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:19 pm to
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Which, tbh, is not super great for america's population. We have those 3 in spades.
ISWYDT
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:19 pm to
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They didn't look at all of Italy's deaths, just 18% of them. In that 18%, only 3 had no previous pathology.


That’s fair...so extrapolate that out to 100%. That’s less than 25 people that have died without prexisting health conditions. Presumably they are elderly.

They are definitely over 40, because the next chart looks at TOTAL deaths. Not 18% of them. And there have only been 17 deaths under forty and ALL were men with serious prexisting conditions
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:20 pm to
So we just aren’t supposed to protect our 3 most vulnerable people under 40? Some of you are starting to show your stupidity
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:20 pm to
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ISWYDT





I didn't actually mean to do that
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53610 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:21 pm to
Also, I’m hearing reports that ~20% of patients who develop pneumonia (in turn around 15% of all infected) but then recover has such severe scarring in the lungs it results in a diminished capacity.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:22 pm to
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You willing to push them boomers off that cliff baw


Dude they are dying anyway. Half of the deaths reviewed had 3 prexisting conditions.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10764 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:22 pm to
Whoa, calm down.
Posted by Joehat
New Orleans West
Member since Jun 2011
1108 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:23 pm to
I get it, you’re losing tons of money like the rest of us. This sucks. But, odds are, you are going to know someone who dies from this. Old or young.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1923 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:23 pm to
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Agree, but the 1st case in Missouri was a couple of days ago. A 60 year old. Their health has been described as very healthy to a COPD patient. Anyway, that person is dead 2 days after being diagnosed.


I live in Columbia & I haven’t seen anything about the patient having COPD. The only thing they said was that they were self-quarantined after diagnosis & wound up calling 911. They haven’t released any info regarding the patient other than the virus was acquired during travel & they were in their 60’s. They haven’t even disclosed gender. I can’t fathom why they had this patient quarantine at home, yet I shouldn’t be surprised by anything the University of Missouri Health System botches. Per the governor’s office, the decision was the healthcare provider’s to make.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:24 pm to
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has such severe scarring in the lungs it results in a diminished capacity.


You can recover some of that over time
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6043 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:24 pm to
Reported hypertension prevalence in Italy ranges from 55% to 59% of the whole population >18+ years of age, with a worrisome rate of 11% in the 18–35?years age range.

The coronavirus obviously has a passion for taking out those with weakened bodies. America is not a beacon of health. We have a lot of people with the same issues described in the article. We very well may see substantial loss of life. We have a lot larger population.

Also, I would imagine that 99% of most people have some kind of health issue. That's just part of being a human.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:28 pm to
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So we just aren’t supposed to protect our 3 most vulnerable people under 40? Some of you are starting to show your stupidity


No...we should not save 3 people at the cost of millions of jobs and the global economy. It’s Darwinism. Survival of the fittest. Maybe now, after all of this is done, people will start taking better fricking care of themselves.

We drive cars every day. 1.25 million people die every year...3800 a day...from car accidents. You want to give those up too to save lives? How about sugar? And alcohol? Should be banned right? to protect the people from themselves and save lives?

You are the one showing your stupidity. We accept death for the greater good every day.
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