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re: Alex Murdaugh's murder conviction overturned - new trial to begin

Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Lafayette
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:27 pm to
The jury clerk played way too big of a role in the first case. She was influencing the jury by coaching them on things they should look for. Even one juror said she was influenced by the clerk. The stuff she did was illegal and didn’t afford a fair trial to the defendant. I have no doubt that another jury will find him guilty, as it should be but this decision was justified based on the jury tampering that was done.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:31 pm to
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isn't this double jeopardy?
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James Arthur Williams (December 11, 1930 – January 14, 1990) was an American antiques dealer and a historic preservationist based in Savannah, Georgia. He played an active role in the preservation of the Savannah Historic District for over 35 years.

Williams is the main character in John Berendt's book Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, published four years after Williams's 1990 death. After four trials for an alleged murder that occurred in his house in 1981, he was acquitted in 1989.
Fatty Arbuckle was tried 3 times
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:52 pm to
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The first trial of Jim Williams, held in 1982, resulted in a guilty verdict. Williams was sentenced to life in prison, but quickly appealed. During the appeal, holes were made in the responding officer’s report of the murder scene, and Williams was given a new trial in 1983.

The 1983 trial again resulted in a guilty verdict. The major difference in the second trial was that Williams discussed his sexuality and relationship with Hansford. Williams would once again appeal, and the Georgia Supreme Court again overturned the verdict in 1985. Their reason was that a sheriff had testified as an expert witness, which he was not.

Things took a turn for Williams when the 1987 trial ended in a mistrial. Although 11 jurors believed Williams was guilty, there was one holdout. The evidence that resulted in the hung jury was that Hansford’s hands weren’t bagged at the crime scene. This meant any gunpowder residue could have been disturbed.

1989 Trial
Jim Williams during his final 1989 trial — the end of Savannah’s most infamous courtroom saga. Copyright by US Ghost Adventures
A fourth and final trial took place in Augusta, GA, in 1989. The move was meant to give Williams a better chance at an unbiased jury. The move proved beneficial to Williams, who was found not guilty in May 1989. It took the jury only an hour to reach its verdict. After eight years of jail time and legal battles, Jim Williams was a free man. He promptly returned to Mercer House.


Maybe an actual lawyer could chime in, but I don't think any of the previous 3 trials represent double jeopardy. It was 2 guilty verdicts overturned on appeal and a mistrial. The prosecution can retry those cases if they choose. Double jeopardy would be if he was acquitted on a charge and they retried on the same charge.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:59 pm to
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I don't think any of the previous 3 trials represent double jeopardy
I never said it did

Indeed, my point was the exact opposite
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:08 pm to
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I never said it did

Indeed, my point was the exact opposite


Should've said that in your prior post.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:13 pm to
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Indeed, my point was the exact opposite
Should've said that in your prior post
the fact that I bolded the section saying he went through 4 trials would seem to make that obvious

But if not, my apologies
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:18 pm to
I'd be lying if I said I didn't hesitate before I posted that. I thought, "Kafka has to know what this means".
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:49 pm to
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I think there was someone else with him at the kennels and possibly aided in killing his wife and son,


I think it was Buster the oldest son. Definitely were two shooters. Dad took the rap.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9351 posts
Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:51 pm to
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The problem is the SC Supreme Court is liberals as fvck. The state isn’t but they’ve stacked the hell out of the court with leftist morons


Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:25 pm to
Like this really matters??? He will still be in prison for 40 years. He will still die in prison..
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15307 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 5:54 am to
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I would love to know how the surviving son is doing


Buster is living in Bluffton with that wife. Not sure what he’s doing for a living, but Bluffton is a pretty nice, affluent, coastal town near Hilton Head.
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
1374 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:36 am to
It was shocking how much Jason Clarke looked like AM in the recent miniseries.
Posted by TheFenceGuy
Member since Jan 2026
106 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:51 am to
Shenanigans or no shenanigans, somebody's gotta pay for those sorry arse bland low country boils.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
820 posts
Posted on 5/14/26 at 7:30 am to
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Also throw the Clerk of Court in prison with him when he’s found guilty next go round. Un fricking believable.


This! What a complete and total moron the Clerk is.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:32 am to
The follow-on doc is on Netflix now:

Alex Murdaugh, Unconvicted.

It is only 30 minutes, but it runs through the salient points that lead to the SC Sup. Ct.'s remittitur returning jurisdiction to Colleton County for a new trial.



Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
2061 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 1:42 pm to
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I think it was Buster the oldest son. Definitely were two shooters. Dad took the rap.


I definitely think Buster was involved . The way you said or he was killed one of them. Definitely two people shooting that night.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2653 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Paid by whom? Alex is broke.


If I had to guess, I would say the older ginger is likely paying for it.

Think about it. His family were multi-millionaires before all of this happened. The dad is in jail (no money), the mom is dead (no money), the younger ginger brother is dead (no money). The multimillions the family originally had probably ended up with the older ginger.

But that’s not the only source of wealth for him. He’s probably making more from all of these books and Netflix shows, than his wealthy family ever made by being corrupt, rich lawyers for multiple generations.

It wouldn’t surprise me if the older ginger is one of the wealthiest gingers to ever walk the face of the earth.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15987 posts
Posted on 5/30/26 at 3:44 pm to
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think it was Buster the oldest son. Definitely


It's already been proven that Buster wasn't even in town. He either did it himself or his " cousin" that was his drug dealer was in on it. I personally believe he did it by himself.

I also don't think it was Buster having a gay relationship with the Smith boy that was murdered. I believe it was Alex.
This post was edited on 5/30/26 at 3:47 pm
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