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re: Alec Baldwin’s ‘Rust’ Involuntary Manslaughter Trial Starts Today
Posted on 7/13/24 at 5:21 am to YNWA
Posted on 7/13/24 at 5:21 am to YNWA
Just as a general matter, can I assume that you are aware of the existence of a line between “making fun of” and insulting? And based only on your own personal observations of the past several years would you not agree that when it comes to Donald Trump and the national media apparatus that it strongly leans more toward insult than old fashioned good natured ribbing? I’m not trying to drop a mic here or anything, these are serious curiosities. Just wanna make sure I haven’t completely fabricated something in my own mind that no one else has noticed.
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:36 am to davyjones
Celebrity rigging at its finest.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 6:37 am
Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:41 am to YNWA
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They've made fun of every sitting president through the years from the very beginning of the show. Even the presidential contenders. It's weird such a , perceived, tough bunch of voters were butthurt over Trump jokes. They wanted Baldwin canceled all the while crying foul for "cancel culture". The likes of Rogan going on and on about comedians not being able to make jokes anymore becasue of "wokeism" but gets easily offended over a comedic skit. Quite the hypocrites.
This certainly is a take. They roasted Bush every chance they got, barely made fun of Obama (hell I would argue Keen and Peele made fun of Obama more), and skewered every Republican as hard as they could. I am not a Trump fan, but I can understand the frustration of seeing that from basically every television angle. I wish we could go back, but now it seems everyone is in the culture war.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:57 am to Jcorye1
This trial was rigged to get thrown out. It is no accident that evidence was withheld. They go the desired out come.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:11 am to Ponchy Tiger
I do find one particular thing pretty “suspicious” and that would be the glaring lack of pushback from the prosecutor(s). Just the most generic of statements in this situation: “Don’t agree with it but respect the court’s ruling.” Which yeah at first glance seems somewhat appropriate, and normally it would be in any other context. But this was sorta worthy of a wtf moment by the prosecutor to the waiting cameras if for nothing else to defend oneself from the incoming shitshow of scrutiny the state attorneys are sure to face, even if only “locally” and we don’t see or hear about it. And to lay groundwork for defense of oneself when the victim’s family becomes more angry over the next few days. Very shady activity afoot here.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:29 am to davyjones
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Very shady activity afoot here.
I think that is trying to be too clever by half. There are plenty of ways to tank a case, especially a criminal case as the prosecutor, without putting your law license on the line. Defending yourself on camera works if you already have your defense mapped out but doing it on the spur of the moment can be dangerous. While it is not as foolhardy as a lay person speaking to a cop in the interview room it is still not the wisest thing to do in the moment.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:55 am to The Mick
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Can someone give us a quick rundown on specifically what he did wrong? Haven't kept up with this... TIA
Called Trump a jackass more than the average person.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:02 am to davyjones
Phil Hartman as Bill Clinton was funny.
Alec Baldwin as Trump isn't funny.
Alec Baldwin as Trump isn't funny.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:10 am to Motownsix
I think he vilified gun owners and then shot someone dead
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:12 am to dchog
True. And I don’t think the point was even to try to be funny. And karma caught up with Baldwin for being such a punk.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:42 am to Ponchy Tiger
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This trial was rigged to get thrown out. It is no accident that evidence was withheld. They go the desired out come.
This
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:08 pm to davyjones
I mean: is it that far of a stretch that an über rich person paid-off the backwoods county prosecutor to commit an unforced error, disqualifying his trial, and get-off Scot-free for committing manslaughter and never be tried again?
Two-tiered justice. That rich man was never going to be held accountable. And we all saw it coming.
Two-tiered justice. That rich man was never going to be held accountable. And we all saw it coming.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:35 pm to TDFreak
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I mean: is it that far of a stretch that an über rich person paid-off the backwoods county prosecutor to commit an unforced error, disqualifying his trial, and get-off Scot-free for committing manslaughter and never be tried again?
1. Santa Fe isn't exactly backwoods
2. why would a paid-off prosecutor actually prosecute the case, hire a special prosecutor, and blow the case in a way that puts her law license in jeopardy? None of that makes any sense.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 3:42 pm to TDFreak
Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:21 pm to Obtuse1
I don’t think her law license is in trouble. Hence my perplexity at the extreme action by the judge. This doesn’t strike me as being of the most egregious, intentional grades of the violation. What I reallyx2 don’t get is the fact that the prosecution overtly made the evidence in question available to the defense, as they’re saying (whether completely accurate or not, who knows) but made the evidence available to the defense for inspection.
So if true, the defense was on notice of the existence of that evidence and was free to inspect it as they felt necessary. There’s just a lot of weird shite about this matter. And no that doesn’t necessarily mean that a vast conspiracy has been pulled off, could possibly be that there’s a serious lack of contextual information that if plugged into the right area, a lot might be explained and better understood. But at the same time I can’t ignore the oddities in the matter.
So if true, the defense was on notice of the existence of that evidence and was free to inspect it as they felt necessary. There’s just a lot of weird shite about this matter. And no that doesn’t necessarily mean that a vast conspiracy has been pulled off, could possibly be that there’s a serious lack of contextual information that if plugged into the right area, a lot might be explained and better understood. But at the same time I can’t ignore the oddities in the matter.
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:35 pm to davyjones
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I don’t think her law license is in trouble.
Assuming the detective testified truthfully coupled with Morrissey's statements to the judge equals a lie. Lying to a judge if proven is a disbarrable offense in any of the jurisdictions I am licensed in.
Posted on 7/13/24 at 4:45 pm to Obtuse1
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Lying to a judge if proven is a disbarrable offense in any of the jurisdictions I am licensed in.
Where do you practice, playa? And also how big a boy are ya? I’m gonna come down thar and whoop yar arse. I digress. If your answer to the question above is Louisiana, I’m not so sure about that. Now of course under oath, yeah definitely that’s gonna be a bit of a problem. But otherwise, while certainly frowned upon, I wouldn’t think a disbarrable offense. And we’re both straight making up that word “disbarrable”….. but we’ve got license to do so. Wordsmith license.
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