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re: Alabama high school students filmed using racist slurs

Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:37 pm to
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I am guessing Hoover's school district is governed by the Alabama state govt?


Correct. All of which are subordinate to federal law.

ETA: The state gives the local school district authority to manage the district.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:38 pm to
Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina.


The racist belt
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:45 pm to
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All of which are subordinate to federal law.



What case are you referring to that gives school districts authority to limit off site speech?

Not Tinker I hope.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina.



Don't forget California. They just had a bunch of white kids from Newport Beach line up beer pong cups into a swastika while doing the Nazi salute

LINK
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted by LafourcheTiger
Avarua, Cook Islands
Member since Mar 2009
2332 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:48 pm to
How can we use this against the Gumps?
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73686 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:53 pm to
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What case are you referring to that gives school districts authority to limit off site speech?


It's been a while, but start with Bell v. Itawamba County School Board, 2015

LINK

Just having seen posts of the recording content, one might infer what the female said as being threatening language.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 2:59 pm to
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They just had a bunch of white kids from Newport Beach line up beer pong cups into a swastika while doing the Nazi salute


The alcoholocaust is not a symbol of racism. It is simply a WW2 reenactment... Unless the Nazis win.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:02 pm to
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hould the school be able to discipline these kids?
wtf kind of question is this? none of the school's business.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Sounds like something one could sue over to me
I bet they get all their tuition back.
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
These kids probably don’t have any idea why they are making anti-Semitic remarks. I guarantee you they have no understand of why traditionally, people discriminate against them.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:13 pm to
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Just having seen posts of the recording content, one might infer what the female said as being threatening language.


If you read the decision by the 5th circuit in Bell, you can see that they ruled against him because of his threats to school administrators, talking about getting his Ruger and using it against the teachers. AFAIK, the students made no threats against teachers here.

Also, this case never made it to the Supreme Court & Hoover is subject to the 11th Court, not the 5th, so theres no way that decision would apply atm.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:19 pm to
Heres a good link about some other cases floating out there...

LINK

quote:

In January 2014, Reid Sagehorn, a student at Rogers High School in Minnesota, jokingly tweeted “actually yeah” in response to a question about whether he had made out with one of his high school teachers.

The public school, acting on the tweet, suspended him for seven weeks. Sagehorn, a member of the National Honor Society, fought the suspension in a federal court, claiming the actions of school officials violated his First Amendment right to free speech.

Did the school have the right to punish him for his off-campus expression? It turns out – no.

In August 2015, a federal judge rejected the school officials’ motion to have the case dismissed. After all, the court found that Sagehorn made the post while away from campus, during nonschool hours, without using the school’s computers. And last month Sagehorn collected a settlement of more than US$400,000.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:22 pm to
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a private residence.
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the Code of Student Conduct.
they don't have the balls to do anything but give them a talking to.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17814 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:38 pm to
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are you black? odds are ALL of those students have at least one black teacher... it's a crappy situation all around for everyone I hate it that it's going to be a huge headache & distraction for the school


I am black. I do agree that it is a terrible situation. This type of thing will not blow over for the school easily at all. Even if students in the school move past the issue. The public and the media is involved now, so that escalate everything.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3203 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:45 pm to
The kids I knew in high school that said shite like this did so because they were racist assholes. People trying to explain the behavior away by essentially claiming "teens say the darnest things" is a little ridiculous.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:47 pm to
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A video showing Alabama high school students drinking and using racist slurs at an off-campus gathering surfaced on social media over the weekend.

In the video, shared on Facebook and other platforms, a group of white students are going back and forth talking about the Holocaust, about Jewish people, and about African-Americans, using the n-word multiple times in a derogatory manner.

"F--- n------'s, f--- Jews," one boy says.

“Jews are fine because they’re white,” a girl says. “We just need the n----'s gone.”


Let's be real.. this is unfortunately common in the south
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:47 pm to
The underage drinking is the only thing illegal but the media doesn’t care about that
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:49 pm to
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Generation Z is woke as frick. This is why the schools and media are pushing socialism and progressivism so hard.




Woke = racist now?
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:49 pm to
Racism and anti Semitism in Anerica. Not news as enabled and encouraged by the White House and Fox News.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 3:52 pm to
Lol
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