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re: Alabama governor signs law banning puberty blockers, gender transition surgeries

Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:28 pm to
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So you think it's backwards to prevent teachers from discussing sex and gender reassignment with kindergarteners?

Was there even any evidence of it happening in Alabama?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74876 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Was there even any evidence of it happening in Alabama?


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:30 pm to
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Was there even any evidence of it happening in Alabama?
If it isn’t happening, then there is absolutely nothing to worry about in banning it.

No one would care.

It would be like banning breathing water. It would impact zero lives.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:30 pm to
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left and progressives lose their collective minds when that same concept is applied to chopping off your dick


This is the ignorance I’m talking about. Cases of minors having gender reassignment surgery are extremely rare, and are not even available at the vast majority of hospitals. Puberty blockers aren’t recommended until an adolescent is 16, and in those cases the patient has to have documented history of gender dysphoria and parental consent.

But it’s easier to drum up fear based ignorance than actually educate oneself on the topic, and call anyone that actually shows concern for kids gong through this a “groomer”, whatever the hell that means. I’ll be the first to admit the whole trans thing is weird to me, but excuse me if I call out this ignorant fear mongering from conservative lawmakers.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
5794 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:32 pm to
I guess if you were into pre-pubescent children this sort of law would chap your arse.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Was there even any evidence of it happening in Alabama?

No, it was only Florida and Virginia and California and North Carolina...everywhere BUT AL.

All sarcastic responses aside, I don't really care if there was evidence of it happening before in Alabama. I just know that, going forward, if it happens, those trying to do their grooming at school, or anywhere else for that matter, will face a lengthy prison stretch.

frick em.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
5794 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Wonder why they chose 19, wouldn't the individual be able to take over medical decisions at 18?


The age of majority in Alabama is 19
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:33 pm to
Again, if it doesn’t impact anyone, why are you progressives losing your minds over it?

You and your fellow groomers’ responses to these bills is completely counter to your statements.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:36 pm to
Where tf did I say it didn’t impact anyone? The law outlaws puberty blockers for anyone under 19. My post clearly said those drugs are only recommended for adolescents that are at least 16. I have no clue if any adolescents in Alabama are currently being prescribed these things, and I doubt the lawmakers that drafted and voted in favor of this bill do either.
Posted by IvarsRegular
DFW
Member since May 2021
158 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:36 pm to
Imagine going to civil war over trans rights lol good thing most of them are so mentally ill they just sit on Twitter, Twitch, and Discord all day jerking themselves off. Also, don't let your kids use Discord or watch Twitch streams with out monitoring them, those sites are full of these groomers.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:37 pm to
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call anyone that actually shows concern for kids gong through this a “groomer”, whatever the hell that means.

Oh, you know exactly what it means.

You just don't like it because your sacred progressives are being labeled as such (100% accurately as well). You've hitched your wagon to the crazies and are now going over the cliff with them.

But instead of standing on any principles, you'd just rather throw out the "conservative fear monger" trope...again...
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
59285 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:39 pm to
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No, I think it’s backwards to pass a law that is intentionally hateful towards children without taking any time to try and understand the issue at hand.


The "issue at hand" is that people with self-image dysphoria expressing itself through gender confusion believe everyone is just like them, so they see pushing their mental and emotional issues onto everyone else as a good thing to attempt to normalize their own attempts at denying the reality of their own genitalia. Part of that "issue at hand" is that there are people who are either too shallow of thought or so scared of hurting someone else's feelings that they are willing to dive into that group's desire for wish fulfillment to the point that they'll willingly expose their kids to the cult-level programming of pushing/allowing their kids to frick with their biological processes before they are adult enough to understand what's going on (much less understand the consequences).

What's backwards is to think that trying to push the psychological disorders of a tiny minority of people onto all children is a good and positive thing.
This post was edited on 4/11/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 12:41 pm to
Govt commanding what one can and cannot do with their bodies, medically approved, is to “right” what abortions are to babies.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54843 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:06 pm to
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seriously can't get over you claiming the state is backwards in a thread about this specific law
you think it’s the only reason Alabama is considered backwards?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46176 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:09 pm to
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Was there even any evidence of it happening in Alabama?



If it wasn't, there shouldn't be any issue with the law now should there?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37064 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Maybe there's a HIPAA loophole for subpoenaing medical records in a criminal case, IDK.


100%
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46176 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:11 pm to
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you think it’s the only reason Alabama is considered backwards?



Alabama is no more backwards than the other 49 states in this country.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54843 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Alabama is no more backwards than the other 49 states in this country.
whatever you say. Don’t hear too many screwing your cousin jokes about the Northeast for example
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24248 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Don’t hear too many screwing your cousin jokes about the Northeast for example

Do you stereotype the same way when talking about the black community?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87381 posts
Posted on 4/11/22 at 1:58 pm to
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If it isn’t happening, then there is absolutely nothing to worry about in banning it.

No one would care.


Eh, I think in a bubble there are issues with these laws targeting a non-existent societal ill. Like shariah law in Oklahoma.

But I think this is different because there is broad cultural support for pushing this on kids in the US (if not in Alabama public schools). So it's not a solution in search of a problem, it's a solution to counter a problem that may or may not ever become a thing in Alabama public schools.

But all that is irrelevant to me. In my view the law doesn't target trans kids. The law targets largely straight, white progressives who have picked this battle and are now being driven out of states that don't want them and where they don't belong.
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