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re: Aircraft Owned by Major Texas Boosters Crashes in Maine (6 killed)
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:40 am to Fletch1985
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:40 am to Fletch1985
Victim ID?
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:42 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
You could easily imagine:
Ladies, the weather turned on us. We are going to need to put you up at the local holiday inn here in beautiful Bangor. The nice local boutique you ladies normally expect is booked up. Can’t really say for how long you get to stay there, but at least tonight.
The pilots in this situation are often employees of the owner.
Ladies, the weather turned on us. We are going to need to put you up at the local holiday inn here in beautiful Bangor. The nice local boutique you ladies normally expect is booked up. Can’t really say for how long you get to stay there, but at least tonight.
The pilots in this situation are often employees of the owner.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:45 am to baldona
Bangors runway is the longest on the east coast, it’s also one of the widest at 200 ft wide (standard ATL, DFW, MSY runway is 150 ft wide). Even most commercial jets come no where close to the end of the runway. The Maine national guard or air guard is based there so the reason for the excessive big runway for their larger aircraft being fully gassed up using lots of runway being so heavy (especially if they need to operate in conditions just like there where runway going and stopping performance is greatly reduced)
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:47 am to mmonro3
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I will never fly private. Those are the ones that go down! Call me poor! I dont care
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:50 am to Twix 23
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Or maybe the de-ice guy was cold and tired and forgot to de-ice one of the wings. So one wing was clean and the other iced up causing the airplane to roll.
Yikes that seems logical
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:51 am to 777Tiger
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have to deal with customs/immigration there, makes more sense to stop in where they did, besides, St Johns would be a better option, nursing school there
On the private terminal how hard is that? I wouldn't doubt they could have the customs official come to your plane while it refuels.
Those FBO terminals make paperwork a breeze, I'd assume it takes less time than refueling?
Now, money IDK the costs. But you'd have to be dumb to put a couple $1000 over your life on a private jet.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:52 am to Jmcc64
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152 knots. is that rotate speed
Pretty sure that is above highest rotate speeed.
The rumor network says that it was ice on one wing that caused it to roll into that wing.
Runway length would not be a factor there.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:58 am to baldona
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On the private terminal how hard is that? I wouldn't doubt they could have the customs official come to your plane while it refuels.
Not very hard at least when I did it. Not staying or taking anything off the plane, so no customs. As I recall they just looked at passports and let us hang out in the FBO until it was time to get back on.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:03 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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Bangors runway is the longest on the east coast
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JFK (New York): Runway 13R/31L is often cited as one of the longest on the East Coast, around 14,500 ft, primarily for heavy cargo/long-haul, notes Aviation Stack Exchange and Bigorre.org.
Bangor International Airport (KBGR): Has a notable 11,440-foot runway (Runway 15/33), a key trans-Atlantic stop, says
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:03 pm to baldona
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On the private terminal how hard is that? I wouldn't doubt they could have the customs official come to your plane while it refuels. Those FBO terminals make paperwork a breeze, I'd assume it takes less time than refueling?
Canada can be pretty weird. You’re supposed to call ahead of time with your manifest and then call again when you land. Sometimes they’ll just let you in with the phone call, sometimes they’ll come out to the plane to see you and sometimes they’ll make you taxi to their office before you can go to the FBO.
As long as the jet has the range to make it from Bangor to Europe there’s no real reason to stop in Canada. The weather at the time of the accident wasn’t really all that bad. Not great but nothing that aircraft and crew shouldn’t have been able to handle.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:06 pm to 777Tiger
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have to deal with customs/immigration there, makes more sense to stop in where they did
Sure, unless the weather is bad and causes them to crash. The discussion is where they should have gone instead of the best place to stop.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:12 pm to Twix 23
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As long as the jet has the range to make it from Bangor to Europe there’s no real reason to stop in Canada. The weather at the time of the accident wasn’t really all that bad. Not great but nothing that aircraft and crew shouldn’t have been able to handle.
The beauty of flying private is the ability to do damn near anything you want. Choosing to go to Bangor in those conditions instead of a better route, gets you what just happened most likely.
They said it started snowing right before they took off. The crews know the weather, they were watching it all day. Sure it was fine, but look what fine gets you.
I wouldn't doubt they were either behind or in a hurry
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:15 pm to Twix 23
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The weather at the time of the accident wasn’t really all that bad. Not great but nothing that aircraft and crew shouldn’t have been able to handle.
didn't the airport official say in this morning's presser that flights were coming and going at the time?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:16 pm to Jmcc64
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didn't the airport official say in this morning's presser that flights were coming and going at the time?
I just listened to the ATC audio on the previous page and there was an allegient jet and another airliner taxiing to takeoff at the same time.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:17 pm to Jmcc64
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didn't the airport official say in this morning's presser that flights were coming and going at the time?
On the airport radar from the video clip posted, there appear to be other planes moving on the tarmac. So I'm sure it was operating mostly normally.
I don't think this was necessarily a bad or abnormally dangerous decision, I'm only suggesting it could have been done more safely.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:36 pm to baldona
They were only in Bangor for an hour. I have no knowledge of icing on planes but would only being at the airport for an hour cause alot of ice accumulation?
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:51 pm to SWLA92
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They were only in Bangor for an hour. I have no knowledge of icing on planes but would only being at the airport for an hour cause alot of ice accumulation?
Depends on conditions.
If it was raining and temps were below freezing, absolutely. If they landed in icing conditions and temps were below freezing, it was probably still on the critical surfaces, despite no precip falling.
There are a lot of factors that could’ve caused an icing situation.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 12:51 pm to SirWinston
I’ve never been on a private planes big enough to jump the pond, but I’ve been on smaller ones, mostly prop, and had two flights where we told pilot we were in no hurry and would rather be safe than sorry. One was rain and one was snow storms. We waited both times.
The smaller the plane the more anxious it makes me.
The smaller the plane the more anxious it makes me.
Posted on 1/26/26 at 1:02 pm to VernonPLSUfan
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Wonder what her maiden name was?
Tara Williams. She married Kurt Arnold. Her mom worked as a victim’s rights advocate in Sabine Parish.
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