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re: Ahmaud Arbery’s killers sentenced to life in prison, two with no chance of parole
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:04 pm to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:04 pm to tigerpimpbot
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tigerpimpbot
Don't break your arm patting your self on the back.
The feral rats are already taking over on your side of the river.
So now you clowns are jumping ship and bringing your woke crap with you and infesting us.
Do us a favor, stay the frick where you are.
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:07 pm to Reubaltaich
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Don't break your arm patting your self on the back. The feral rats are already taking over on your side of the river. So now you clowns are jumping ship and bringing your woke crap with you and infesting us. Do us a favor, stay the frick where you are
This is almost verbatim what Pesticide said about this case lmao
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:46 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Ok so do they need to witness the crime right in front of them?
It doesn't have to be witnessed with eyeballs.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole of GA case law on the subject you can start with Young v. State 238 Ga. 548 (1977)
233 S.E.2d 750.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:48 pm to Reubaltaich
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McMicheals was acting in self-defense when AA was killed.
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The ONLY reason they were convicted was because of the skin-color of both parties.
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This nothing more than a woke lynching of innocents folks who were protecting their neighborhoods from some two-bit hood rat.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 3:52 pm to Reubaltaich
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And all the chest-beaters are on here and other sites trying to prove how to the world that "I am NOT wa'cist"
I don’t see it that way at all. I think a ton of folks around here don’t give a shite about Arbery’s skin color. A couple of members of the good ole’ boy network thought they could do no wrong and are paying the price.
FWIW, I don’t think Travis McMichael went after Arbery just because he was black. I think he probably thought he was doing the right thing, and that having his ex-cop daddy in the truck gave him an inflated sense of confidence in that regard. But actions have consequences and you don’t get a pass for making bad decisions just because the local PD and DA think your dad is a good guy. You don’t get qualified immunity just because you used to be a police officer.
If Greg McMichael were an accountant instead of an ex-cop, they would have been arrested way before that video went public.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 6:05 am to WaWaWeeWa
That's cool. Georgia law is then a little different from what I'd heard. I suppose it depends on what "within their immediate knowledge means." Perhaps the suspicious nature around Arbery that morning was simply insufficient to meet Georgia's requirement.
And there's always the unknowable jury, that they'll just vote how they want. Jury nullification, but in reverse in this case.
In either case, my point is not that the guys should not have been convicted but rather that no there was not literally no evidence that Arbery had potentially been up to something.
And there's always the unknowable jury, that they'll just vote how they want. Jury nullification, but in reverse in this case.
In either case, my point is not that the guys should not have been convicted but rather that no there was not literally no evidence that Arbery had potentially been up to something.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 6:16 am to davyjones
Yea it appeared he wasn't simply out for a morning jog, what of it? Not speculation at all. There was some evidence to that end. Clearly not enough to "prove" he had done anything and thus conviction, but you don't have to speculate the opposite. Never said it was proven. Quite literally the opposite. Just answering the guy's question about YES, there was SOME evidence about Arbery being up to no good, but NO we don't really know, AND it doesn't matter as to the defendants' guilt.
And I'm saying what Arbery had or hadn't done is irrelevant in that the defendants hadn't witnessed/had insufficient knowledge of those facts. But that may be semantics for our discussion. I think you're saying if we knew now after the fact that Arbery for sure had done something it would matter as to the defendants' guilt, while I suggest that only the defendants' knowledge at the time of what Arbery had done would matter.
I don't think we're far off what matters most in this case anyway. Did the defendants have a right to citizen's arrest? Apparently not, according to the jury and Georgia law. So were they guilty? Yup. We can move on. No need to white knight.
And I'm saying what Arbery had or hadn't done is irrelevant in that the defendants hadn't witnessed/had insufficient knowledge of those facts. But that may be semantics for our discussion. I think you're saying if we knew now after the fact that Arbery for sure had done something it would matter as to the defendants' guilt, while I suggest that only the defendants' knowledge at the time of what Arbery had done would matter.
I don't think we're far off what matters most in this case anyway. Did the defendants have a right to citizen's arrest? Apparently not, according to the jury and Georgia law. So were they guilty? Yup. We can move on. No need to white knight.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 6:25 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 6:35 am to Reubaltaich
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tigerpimpbot
Don't break your arm patting your self on the back.
The feral rats are already taking over on your side of the river.
So now you clowns are jumping ship and bringing your woke crap with you and infesting us.
Do us a favor, stay the frick where you are.
Wtf. I’ve been in red pilled Florida for over 20 years. You stay where you are.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:27 am to Obtuse1
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It doesn't have to be witnessed with eyeballs.
If you want to go down the rabbit hole of GA case law on the subject you can start with Young v. State 238 Ga. 548 (1977) 233 S.E.2d 750.
This was my only point. They didn’t need to see anything with their own eyes.
And the fact that thinking you have enough knowledge for a citizens arrest vs not means life in prison seems crazy to me. So we are basically saying if they could prove just that they had reasonable suspicion he committed a crime all of their actions would have been justified? Yea, that law is fricked up.
The two with the guns are just dumb enough that I don’t really care what happens to them, but the guy just filming got screwed IMO. I don’t think he had any idea that they were going to end up killing Arbery.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:30 am to saintforlife1
If the races were reversed, there is no way WaPO would have led in with that same introductory sentence. Clown world we live in.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:49 am to Reubaltaich
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McMicheals was acting in self-defense when AA was killed.
Honestly, this is why jury trials are suspect. No reasonable person can look at the set of facts in this case and come to that conclusion. Unfortunately, our country is loaded with unreasonable people and many of them sit on juries.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:00 am to Antonio Moss
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Honestly, this is why jury trials are suspect. No reasonable person can look at the set of facts in this case and come to that conclusion. Unfortunately, our country is loaded with unreasonable people and many of them sit on juries.
It’s not that far fetched. Technically if they could prove they thought he committed a crime they would be completely innocent. That’s all it boils down to.
In my mind that’s a fricked up law. No one should be out there thinking they can make a citizens arrest.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:04 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Technically if they could prove they thought he committed a crime they would be completely innocent. That’s all it boils down to.
I don’t believe that is correct.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
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GA has since overhauled its citizens arrest law pretty yugely. Hit "Current Version" at top. It's been signed/enacted
That’s basically an admission that the law was bullshite
This "to me" means they win their appeal. The law being confusing was their primary defense.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:26 am to Antonio Moss
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I don’t believe that is correct.
Why?
If they prove they have knowledge of a crime that means they have a right to a citizens arrest with this fricked up law.
Which means they aren’t committing a felony (kidnapping)
Which means that killing Arbery after he is lunging for his gun is self defense and not a death while committing a felony (definition of murder in GA)
This vague citizens arrest law should have never been on the books. Unfortunately it takes a messed up situation like this to bring to light how screwed up the law is.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:30 am to saintforlife1
They deserved jail but it should have been manslaughter. Life with no parole is a "send a message" sentence. Glad the idiot who filmed it got his. That should be the lesson to everyone. Don't film anything when involved in dumb shite.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:32 am to Klark Kent
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not at the time of this specific incident.
you don’t get to play judge, jury, and executioner
What does "not at the time of this specific incident" mean? Are you assuming at some point he was?
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:32 am to V Bainbridge
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They deserved jail but it should have been manslaughter.
Why?
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Life with no parole is a "send a message" sentence.
No it's a mandatory sentence, effectively.
They could have all received the death penalty but got off light.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:47 am to Reubaltaich
Posted on 1/11/22 at 10:29 am to WaWaWeeWa
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It’s not that far fetched. Technically if they could prove they thought he committed a crime they would be completely innocent. That’s all it boils down to.
No.
The law states they have to KNOW he committed a felony crime to do what they did.
Not just THINK AA did any crime.
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