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re: Afghan veteran in standoff with police over red flag laws in up state NY

Posted on 11/24/19 at 5:18 am to
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 5:18 am to
So you guys are against police if they come for your 30 mag or come after a vet.

Yet you're for police if they shoot a minority in the back or if those minorities kneel during the anthem to protest police brutality.


Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61215 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 5:37 am to
No.

We are against police when they are not doing the proper function of their job, which is property protection.

When police are participating in plunder or confiscation, at any level, from speeding tickets to gun seizure or asset forfeiture to fund their department, we are against them.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 5:38 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Yet you're for police if they shoot a minority in the back or if those minorities kneel during the anthem to protest police brutality.


Black males commit approximately 90% of the violent crimes in my city.
Posted by TastyJibblets
North of I-10
Member since Jun 2018
679 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Black males commit approximately 90% of the violent crimes in my city.

But but but statistics are racist
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54722 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Police say that man is not expected to face any charges from the standoff.


Wait.

What?
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:38 am to
quote:

Most cops don’t want any part of it. Most are 2A proponents.


Maybe so, but if they have to choose between their pensions and the constitution, we know what their choices will be.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Why are you defending this nut. Live a normal life and quit romanticizing unhinged nuts, man.


Proof of the power of the media.

Media says orange man bad, sheep hate orange man.
Media says nothing to see here, move along. Sheep move along
Media says these arent the droids youre looking for. Sheep look elsewhere.

We are doomed as a society.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32403 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:49 am to
quote:

if they shoot a minority in the back


What minority got shot in the back? Surely you’re not referring to Feeguson?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46425 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:55 am to
quote:

YNWA


Another dumbass just revealed himself.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 8:51 am
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:12 am to
quote:

all of the facts and details to come out


The govt and the media are very good at manipulating said facts and details to fit their agenda and sway public opinion.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:15 am to
quote:

We are against police when they are not doing the proper function of their job, which is property protection.

When police are participating in plunder or confiscation, at any level, from speeding tickets to gun seizure or asset forfeiture to fund their department, we are against them.


Agreed. 100%.
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23145 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:23 am to
According to the Police this had nothing to do with red flag laws

quote:

Putnam County Sheriff's Department
Published by Mike Martin

SOCIAL MEDIA INFORMATION RE: RED FLAG LAW PROTESTS
?
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has been inundated with calls and social media messages from citizens expressing concern about a police response in the Town of Carmel. The incident was widely reported to be a law enforcement effort to seize firearms under “Red Flag” laws. This information is incorrect. The law enforcement response and subsequent arrest was related to a domestic violence investigation. The citizen involved is safe and in police custody.

The incredibly high volume of phone calls, emails and social media messages has overwhelmed our systems and shutdown our ability to communicate with our community. While we respect the right of all citizens to inquire about law enforcement activity, we urge you to respect the needs of our community and restore our ability to serve them. Thank you.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30763 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Yet you're for police if they shoot a minority in the back or if those minorities kneel during the anthem to protest police brutality.



lol, fake news


Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:26 am to
So let's say this happens.

A mentally unstable wife with an ax to grind takes kids out of the house and calls police.
Says she FEALT threatened by husband's guns.
Constitution is trampled inthe ensuing shite show because of feelings.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Says she FEALT threatened by husband's guns.

Why did you capitalize that word... and then misspell it?
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:55 am to
Disinformation is something that law enforcement uses daily.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30521 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:05 am to
quote:

A mentally unstable wife with an ax to grind takes kids out of the house and calls police.
Says she FEALT threatened by husband's guns.
Constitution is trampled inthe ensuing shite show because of feelings.


In most states, red flag laws wouldn't have to be used for this. All you would need is an order of protection and in some jurisdictions, it could even be based on an ex parte hearing initially. Depending on the domestic violence laws in a particular state the red flag laws could be quicker but a domestic partner has had the ability to do this for quite some time.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30521 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:13 am to
Whiskey Warrior 556 during the siege. Reposted from his Insta to youtube.

YT
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:31 am to
No charges filed? Can he sue for false arrest?
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 9:33 am to
His insta is still up. I watched his storyline posts this morning. Scary shite, but I can’t pass judgement until I know more facts. All I can see in the comments from other users is assumptions. For the record, I hate red flag laws.
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