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re: About 200 acres of land acquired for River Ranch-style development in Zachary

Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11221 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:54 pm to
692 houses and only one pool? Gross.
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:11 pm to
They pulled that crap in ascension with the conway and the homes are not what they originally claimed. Got told river ranch and then it became river ranch lite.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6086 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 4:43 pm to
They have one of these going up on Highway 44 in Gonzales near Pelican Point. I just don't see it.
I don't quite get the allure of the one in Lafayette either, but at least it's close to some major economic activity.
Just one strip mall and RPCC near the Gonzales River Ranch (and the strip mall and RPCC are probably a mile away).
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 4:44 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:27 pm to
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It is the school boards job to educate children. It is not their job to try and dictate developement or impede it. I disagree with you 100% on this idea that they should intervene. On the flip side, do you want them engaging in the discussion when Walmart wants to build a second store in Zachary?


What if the school system cannot handle any more students and is busting at the seams?

What if the free lunch numbers are going too far south (the numbers that show a school’s system is going south)? Should they speak up when more cheap or government housing is up for approval?

They won’t speak up but I am just asking should they speak up about all the development then?
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:30 pm to
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They pulled that crap in ascension with the conway and the homes are not what they originally claimed. Got told river ranch and then it became river ranch lite.


Americana was supposed to be like Willow Grove.

Developers can literally tell people anything. It is amazing what they can promise people on most people’s largest investment.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18166 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:43 pm to
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It is the school boards job to educate children


The school board has to worry about facilities, student to teacher ratio, bus routes etc. We aren’t talking 62 houses is this case. They have a right to speak up and say if the development would negatively effect the school system.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26504 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:13 pm to
I don’t think they should. Certainly the board or individual members can engage in the political process. I think most school systems worry about dealing with what they are given. If they need to build a new school or expand one then so be it.

I do not know the threshold for household income for free lunches and I am only speaking about ZCSB here. But, if you can afford to move to Zachary and pay for a house or even rent I think the chances of that child or children being on free lunch are minimal. And I believe in the socioeconomic correlation between district families and school district performance but I don’t think that any public school district should strive to limit those entries. And that’s not even about being politically correct. That’s about being a human being.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 10:15 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68536 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:33 pm to
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I am always shocked to see these developments with Retail as a center piece plus I see banks going up all over BR.


Br has grown a bunch and didn't have much shite to begin with, at least not when I first moved there.

With people moving further out you need some retail strips, all towns with decent population have them.

I have seen regions, chase and cap one branches close over the last several years. So even if some open, others are closing.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11476 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:02 am to
You misunderstand me. I don’t think thy should be restricted but facts are facts it takes more resources to educate them. Better higher paid teachers. More teachers and aids. More programs and on and on.

So just blindly taking all without any thought to your current students who will suffer has never proven to be a successful strategy.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
25437 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:33 am to
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As with everything, LA is about 20 years behind. This type of development has been common in other parts of the countries for a couple decades now - if not longer.


Very true, and 692 isn’t really a huge development, Hell we have 2 in Franklin TN that will double and triple that estimate. I lived here in one called Westhaven for a couple years. Nice community, but way to close proximity to neighbors and no yard.

I will say this, once you get out of the cookie cutter communities, architecturally Louisiana is definitely refining the Acadian/French Country design mold which is very attractive IMO.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29500 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:36 am to
My hometown is no longer a town

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58655 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:39 am to
True. I barely recognized it the last time I was down there, which was about five years ago.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 6:40 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48467 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:45 am to
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My hometown is no longer a town

I grew up in Central in the 80s and it looks nothing like it used to either. I remember being excited when we got a McDonald's
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29175 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 6:55 am to
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Plans are to price the homes between $200,000 and 300,000


So this will allow Baker to expand. Awesome. River Ranch II it ain’t.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29500 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:00 am to
Newell Street still looks like Newell Street

That’s about it
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:30 am to
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My hometown is no longer a town


It’s becoming a higher tier (for Louisiana) suburb.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:32 am to
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They pulled that crap in ascension with the conway and the homes are not what they originally claimed


I don’t mind the lot sizes so long as it’s on land that can’t easily flood and there are amenities within walking distance. That plot in Zachary didn’t flood. If they can make it appealing to buyers, they should try to develop it.

I could definitely see a market for $300K homes in a good school district on dry land that close to Baton Rouge. However, for $300K, a lot of buyers will expect more than 2000 square feet and may prioritize space over quality. They may have an issue with the proximity to Highway 61, the railroad tracks, the current lack of retail in the area, or the need for an HOA (which is a given in smaller lot communities with common areas).

Americana has a similar format, seems nice, and had solid amenities. It’s also developing pretty slowly. Willow Grove in BR seems to be very nice - and I’d buy a house in there if I were in the market now. The Shoe Creek development they are doing in Central is actually on land that stayed dry in 2016. It’s ideal for a dense development and it should be an asset if done properly. It’s going to be anchored by CC’s, a specialty grocery,
and a couple of nicer restaurants.

I do not know much about the Gonzales location. Seems like that’s a good spot though since families could commute into BR and NOLA from there. I don’t remember if that land flooded. That’s still a very rural area but everyone expected it to develop.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 7:46 am
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:44 am to
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And you are right, the article has it wrong. It is definitely the southern intersection.



Leave it to the Advocate to have an article going on three days old on their site with incorrect information.

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:47 am to
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Leave it to the Advocate to have an article going on three days old on their site with incorrect information.


They know that they are fake news. They just don’t care.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26504 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 7:51 am to
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You misunderstand me. I don’t think thy should be restricted but facts are facts it takes more resources to educate them. Better higher paid teachers. More teachers and aids. More programs and on and on.

So just blindly taking all without any thought to your current students who will suffer has never proven to be a successful strategy.


I hear you and all of that is certainly a part of the equation. I guess I am just espousing my personal belief that the school board should educate and the city/parish should worry about development. And there is certainly cross over between the worlds and there is no doubt that the decisions of one affect the other. The local politicians love to run for a city seat and mention how great our schools are. The school board members love to talk about how the SB and COZ do a wonderful job of working together in their campaign literature.
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