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re: A reminder that zipper merging is how your supposed to handle merging
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:10 am to Larry
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:10 am to Larry
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We approach the right lane closure, I am in the left, and have been for some time and I’m supposed to just let the people over who purposefully ignored the sign. frick all that.
Your ego is so delicate that you can't let a car merge in front of you?
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:11 am to Larry
You are causing more traffic when you don’t let them in.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:13 am to Richard Grayson
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A reminder that zipper merging is how your supposed to handle merging
have to deal with this every evening on tigerbend past Jones Creek.....


Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:13 am to Richard Grayson
The early mergers going 25 while traffic is moving at 70 can get fricked.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:13 am to Larry
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We approach the right lane closure, I am in the left, and have been for some time and I’m supposed to just let the people over who purposefully ignored the sign.
Yes, because it reduces traffic considerably.
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frick all that.
You’re the problem.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:14 am to tigersownall
quote:They’re causing it by being a knob trying to skip to the front of the line instead of being proactive. They can wait. frick what the “right thing to do” is.
You are causing more traffic when you don’t let them in.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:14 am to Larry
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Right Lane closed: 1 mile
Right lane closed: 1/2 mile
Right lane closed: 1000 feet
We approach the right lane closure, I am in the left, and have been for some time and I’m supposed to just let the people over who purposefully ignored the sign. frick all that.
We've found the problem folks....idiocy.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:15 am to Henry Jones Jr
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frick what the “right thing to do” is.
Another example of the problem....if we could take away the licenses of people like this traffic would improve instantly.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:16 am to Henry Jones Jr
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They’re causing it by being a knob trying to skip to the front of the line instead of being proactive. They can wait. frick what the “right thing to do” is.
Nope. You’re wrong. frick off.
Being “proactive” is what causes the delays. You being proactive makes everyone else go slower. And riding the bumper of the car in front you to prevent people from merging only makes the traffic worse.
This post was edited on 3/24/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:24 am to Richard Grayson
Sometimes it makes me laugh how much we grow and age yet still remain somewhat childlike.
When we're hungry, sleepy or we haven't been played with (take that how you will), we tend to get grumpy. And even educated people will ride the driver in front of them's arse because "nu uh, no cuts!"
When we're hungry, sleepy or we haven't been played with (take that how you will), we tend to get grumpy. And even educated people will ride the driver in front of them's arse because "nu uh, no cuts!"
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:26 am to Richard Grayson
This should be required reading if you frequent Hwy 73 northbound past I-10. Especially if you lease a luxury vehicle you cannot afford.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:27 am to CoolHand
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I’ve come to terms that in theory this works better but so few practice it, it’s pointless.
This is the obvious answer and I'm not why sure people won't accept this.
Virtually NO ONE that rushes up on the right side in front of the long line on the left is doing so because they're aware zipper merging. They see the long line and decide it would be faster to run up in front of everyone. Which, of course, only slows everything down worse, because 95% of everyone driving doesn't understand zipper merging, so both sets of people are doing it wrong. And because of that, the left lane feels cheated by people "cutting" and refuse to let anyone is, and the right lane is literally trying to cut the line. Double gridlock ensues.
You'd have to have a decade of dedicated PSAs running nonstop to even put a dent into this.

Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:27 am to Richard Grayson
I’ll probably get downvoted, but I really don’t care. To me, zipper merging is one of those theories that works in principle, but fails in practice due to the face that it relies on humans acting logically/rationally.
The zipper merging hinges on several basic assumptions, none of which are particularly consistent in the real world. For example, in order for zipper merging to work, the cars in the continuing lane should all be moving consistently at the same speed while maintaining enough distance for the merging car to fit. Good luck with that dream. It also assumes that the merging car will reach the same speed as those on the highway by the time they merge, thereby preventing any need for braking. Don’t know about you, but for every baw doing 100 in the merge lane, there is a granny merging at 15mph slower than the flow of traffic. And for good measure, throw in the number of people who leave the driving lane so that they can use the merge lane to pass other cars.
The zipper merging hinges on several basic assumptions, none of which are particularly consistent in the real world. For example, in order for zipper merging to work, the cars in the continuing lane should all be moving consistently at the same speed while maintaining enough distance for the merging car to fit. Good luck with that dream. It also assumes that the merging car will reach the same speed as those on the highway by the time they merge, thereby preventing any need for braking. Don’t know about you, but for every baw doing 100 in the merge lane, there is a granny merging at 15mph slower than the flow of traffic. And for good measure, throw in the number of people who leave the driving lane so that they can use the merge lane to pass other cars.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:29 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Virtually NO ONE
I do and so many in this thread it seems
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:30 am to Gaston
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an a-hole by passing everyone
if you're doing it right, there is no long line in one lane and no empty lane. if someone is passing, it's because the dumbasses who start lining up at the one mile sign created the problem.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:33 am to Ingeniero
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someone will inevitably come in and brag about how they don't let people in who "try to jump the line" by zipper merging
And be supported by many more who will say it doesn’t work in heavy traffic even though it’s proven to be the most efficient method and works everywhere else in the country.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:33 am to WG_Dawg
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can assure you that 90% of the people that I see driving up to a few feet in front of the barrier before forcing their way over aren't thinking "well if I recall the zipper merge technique, this is the best way to handle this situation as efficiently as possible".
I agree with you, but he stated that people were ignoring the signs below, as though he was getting over as soon as he sees the first sign.
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Right Lane closed: 1 mile
Right lane closed: 1/2 mile
Right lane closed: 1000 feet
If you're merging a mile early, you're an idiot. You get a mile notice before off ramps, and I continue to drive as normal and will make another pass before exiting, rather than backing up traffic because 50 cars are lined up for the exit that's a whole mile away still.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:34 am to Richard Grayson
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A reminder that zipper merging is how your supposed to handle merging
Well how about that, legit did not know. Will have to take this into consideration ty.
Tangent, emergency flashers in the rain is doing it wrong. Also, apparently the suicide lane is not intended for merging into traffic, left turns only. Further, the distance traveled in said lane is supposed to be limited to, I think the second arrow reached upon entry.
Posted on 3/24/23 at 8:35 am to piratedude
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if you're doing it right, there is no long line in one lane and no empty lane. if someone is passing, it's because the dumbasses who start lining up at the one mile sign created the problem.
Correct. The people moving forward in the open lane are trying to reduce traffic. The fricktards slowing down and merging early and the fricktards closing the gap so people don’t “cut” are causing all the problems.
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