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re: A question for religious people.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:26 pm to GreenRockTiger
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:26 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:What's the best and worst thing about Catholicism?
GreenRockTiger
According to you.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 2:27 pm
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:26 pm to LookingForAnswers
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How do you explain God creating the Universe?
Read the first chapter of Genesis.
Then explain that God is love and beauty and truth. Then explain that the universe is full of beauty and truth. God created all there is and gifted the universe to us along with the free will for us to do with it as we please.
Why do artists create art? Musicians -music? Etc
Those with the ability to create beauty often do. God has an infinite ability to create beauty and he shares that gift with us.
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Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:28 pm to TX Tiger
Your mistaking organized religion created man. The biblical teaching of God and Christ have nothing to do with control. It’s about faith, forgiveness and how to live with your fellow man.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:32 pm to bayoubengals88
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What's the best and worst thing about Catholicism?
Best: God uses the Catholic Church to help and inspire people.
Worst: Satan uses the power in the church to corrupt men and destroy them.
The best thing about Christianity is God.
The worst thing about Christianity is man.
This is a very common theme in the Bible. Man is corrupt and imperfect living in a tempting and imperfect world. The Lord provides us infinite forgiveness and patience and asks only that we try our best and believe in him.
quote:
Matthew 7:
Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
“You parents—if your children ask for a loaf of bread, do you give them a stone instead? Or if they ask for a fish, do you give them a snake? Of course not!
So if you sinful people know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give good gifts to those who ask him.
“Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets.
This post was edited on 12/26/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:32 pm to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Try explaining that Adam and Eve were God’s first children and began the creation of humans….and that it wasn’t incest.
That’s easy. If you read the Book of Genesis in the Hebrew language, you will learn that God created man, including male and female and different races, before he create “the” man, Adam. Then, from Adam’s DNA “curve” (translated as “rib”), God created Eve so they would procreate a distinct, and favored, race. This implies that all of the earlier races were created in the same way, so that the various races had their own distinct features. The bible does not state that Adam and Eve’s progeny committed incest as you allege, as there were other races to procreate with. If you study the geneology of Jesus, you will see that his ancestors included mothers from outside the distinct line of Adam and Eve.
It’s not your fault that you didn’t know this.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:33 pm to PSUMMERS
quote:Well, that unfortanely was the view of the church hierarchy beginning in the 11th-12th centuries. How long did it last?
Your mistaking organized religion created man. The biblical teaching of God and Christ have nothing to do with control. It’s about faith, forgiveness and how to live with your fellow man.
Obviously a branch shot off in the 1520s.
It wasn't until Vatican II that the mainline (Roman Catholicism) encouraged Bible reading.
So yes, I guess the guy who said "comply" is fairly uninformed.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:34 pm to Nguyener
quote:Redeem even? Reconcile? or just help and inspire?
Best: God uses the Catholic Church to help and inspire people.
quote:Great answer
The best thing about Christianity is God.
The worst thing about Christianity is man.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:37 pm to bayoubengals88
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Redeem even? Reconcile? or just help and inspire?
What greater help could you give a man than redemption and reconciliation?
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:40 pm to Nguyener
quote:I was just looking for some specificity. I know no greater help.
What greater help could you give a man than redemption and reconciliation?
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:40 pm to TDsngumbo
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“You know, son, I don’t know the answer to all those questions. What I do know, though, is that everybody has their ah ha moment in life when it comes to God. Mine came years ago and again when you and your sister were both born. It’s okay to not fully comprehend some things when it comes to God. I don’t think we are supposed to know some things and are supposed to just have faith that there is some place that our souls go when we die to live eternally and that everything was created for a purpose.”
What’s wrong with any variation of the above?
Well, you literally have no idea if any of that is true or not.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:40 pm to bayoubengals88
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It wasn't until Vatican II that the mainline (Roman Catholicism) encouraged Bible reading
I’d guess this had more to do with the literacy rate than anything else.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:40 pm to bayoubengals88
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What's the best and worst thing about Catholicism? According to you.
The best thing is that we truly receive Jesus in our Sacrament of communion (transubstantiation) That Jesus is truly there - in the tabernacle and then in us as we receive Him - how lucky I am to be able to have God present with me, and He loves me and forgives me (but that part is true for all who believe)
The worst thing is the money grubbing, self gratifying, blasphemous humans that have ruined the sanctity of our institution.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:43 pm to LookingForAnswers
The Bible teaches that God alone created the universe. It also gives us a number of reasons as to why He did it.
1. He Created It For Himself
One of the reasons that God created the universe was for His own self.
The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble (Proverbs 16:4).
Paul wrote.
For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be the glory forever! Amen. (Romans 11:36).
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him (Colossians 1:16).
2. Creation Was By His Own Will
God created all things for His own will and pleasure.
He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to himself, according to the kind intention of his will (Ephesians 1:5).
John wrote.
You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being (Revelation 4:11).
3. He Created The Universe For His Own Glory
The universe was also created for the glory of God. The prophet Isaiah wrote.
Everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made (Isaiah 43:7).
The psalmist declared.
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands (Psalm 19:1).
4. He Created The Universe To Make Known His Power And Wisdom
God made all things to make known His power and wisdom
And to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things. His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms (Ephesians 3:9,10).
Summary
Scripture tells us why God created the universe. First it was for his for His Person - not for humanity. Creation was also according to his will. There was no one else who advised him. Also he created everything for his own glory - not the glory of any other. The purpose was to make known his power and wisdom. Consequently the Bible teaches there is no reason, outside of God himself, for his creative acts.
1. He Created It For Himself
One of the reasons that God created the universe was for His own self.
The LORD has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble (Proverbs 16:4).
Paul wrote.
For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be the glory forever! Amen. (Romans 11:36).
For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him (Colossians 1:16).
2. Creation Was By His Own Will
God created all things for His own will and pleasure.
He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to himself, according to the kind intention of his will (Ephesians 1:5).
John wrote.
You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being (Revelation 4:11).
3. He Created The Universe For His Own Glory
The universe was also created for the glory of God. The prophet Isaiah wrote.
Everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made (Isaiah 43:7).
The psalmist declared.
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands (Psalm 19:1).
4. He Created The Universe To Make Known His Power And Wisdom
God made all things to make known His power and wisdom
And to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things. His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms (Ephesians 3:9,10).
Summary
Scripture tells us why God created the universe. First it was for his for His Person - not for humanity. Creation was also according to his will. There was no one else who advised him. Also he created everything for his own glory - not the glory of any other. The purpose was to make known his power and wisdom. Consequently the Bible teaches there is no reason, outside of God himself, for his creative acts.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:44 pm to dnm3305
quote:It's either true, or the alternate is true.
Well, you literally have no idea if any of that is true or not.
I find God to be more believable than a voidless universe made of only material with no spiritual explanation.
And the Christian God is the only God worth dealing with. He's the only one with the highest claims, highest stakes, and greatest story. Literally every piece of literature borrows from his archetype.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 2:49 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:I believe that Christ is present, spiritually, in communion. I believe that we feed on him spiritually. I believe that we get as close to partaking of him physically as possible.
The best thing is that we truly receive Jesus in our Sacrament of communion (transubstantiation) That Jesus is truly there - in the tabernacle and then in us as we receive Him - how lucky I am to be able to have God present with me, and He loves me and forgives me (but that part is true for all who believe)
I used to believe it was purely symbolic. I am probably closer to transubstantiation now than where I started. Our pastor will say "feed on Christ". This all comes from what Calvin said on the Lord's Supper.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 3:17 pm to Chuck Barris
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If God is the perfection of virtues, including love and selflessness, then his creation is a logical result of his superabundant love and self-giving. He created the universe not for his good but for ours. The Baltimore Catechism puts it this way:
Question: Why did God make you?
Answer: God made me to know him, to love him, and to serve Him in this world, and to be happy with him forever in heaven.
So, God’s creation of the universe does not contradict his perfection but in fact flows from it. Because God is perfect love, he gives being and life to his creation
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In summing up the teachings of the Holy Fathers of the Church, Saint John of Damascus writes on the reason for the creation: “Because, the Good and Most Kind God did not regard as sufficient the contemplation of Himself, but because of His excessive Goodness He took delight in creating beings which would benefit and participate in His kindness, has brought into being all creation- visible and invisible- out of non existence, including man, who is made of visible and invisible elements. He thinks and He builds, and His thoughts become deeds, which are accomplished by Word and fulfilled by the Spirit”.
That's really wordy for "I don't know". None of that explains why an infinite universe if Man and Earth are his only intelligent creations.
I'm no theologian, but I'd answer it by saying God is infinite and and so are His creations. I'm assuming he has a purpose in mind for all those countless solar systems and galaxies, but I don't know what it is.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 3:23 pm to Jake88
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It is ok to say "Good question, I don't know."
This. Part of being human is lacking the ability to fully understand God's purpose.
Posted on 12/26/21 at 4:02 pm to kisatchie53
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It’s funny because you thought that post came across as intelligent
Ad hominem
Posted on 12/26/21 at 5:27 pm to PSUMMERS
quote:English translation?
Your mistaking organized religion created man.
quote:
The biblical teaching of God and Christ have nothing to do with control.
Sure it doesn't. Neither does government or the media, amirite?
Posted on 12/26/21 at 5:32 pm to LookingForAnswers
God is way smarter than we are.
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