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re: A look ahead at projects planned to end traffic jams in Baton Rouge, surrounding parishes

Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:37 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:37 am to
Actually, we’ve been paying taxes to GL 1 and it’s been over a decade and it still isn’t finished. The Broome plan is on top of the GL tax and is supposed to finish GL.

It wouldn’t take two years to make progress and finish GL 1 while they engineer MovEBR.

How quickly was Kip able to start GL1 which was a smaller plan? I don’t believe 2 or 3 years, but them I could be wrong.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:38 am to
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projects planned to end traffic jams in Baton Rouge


Horse shite. Without a southern loop to remove the excess of flow-through traffic, the best all of this will accomplish is to make things slightly less shitty.

The LA 415 Connector is something that's long been needed to keep the Brusly/Plaquemine corridor from being subject to the whims of the Intracoastal, but that's only a symptom of the real problem: that LA 1 is the only route north for that corridor. Adding a loop that went down the west side of the Intracoastal would fix this issue as well as help lessen the problems in Baton Rouge.

Finishing 49 would be nice but the impact would be minimal for Baton Rouge as the majority of the interstate traffic passing through Baton Rouge on 10 isn't going along 10 to New Orleans but rather going east along 12.

Fixing the bottleneck that is the 110-12 corridor will help a good bit for westward traffic but it's going to do little for eastward traffic other than have it backing up from 12 sooner. As more people leave EBR for Ascension but continue to work in Baton Rouge, even the expansions going on now along 10 will become inadequate (estimate: 5-7 years after completion, see: I-12 expansion).

A lot of the non-beautification MovEBR projects are worthwhile but are just small drops in a very large bucket. As long as Baton Rouge allows for non-flowthrough neighborhoods (one of which I live in) to remain closed off, we're going to continue to see people continuing to cram onto the interstates rather than cramming onto the few multi-lane surface streets which can reasonable facilitate cross-town traffic. Removing the excess flowthrough traffic on the interstates via a southern loop (or even a northern one, for that matter) will allow for more local traffic on the interstates and thus fewer on the surfaces streets (thus making the surface streets viable enough to be a better balance against the interstates).
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
1454 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:51 am to
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BP was the ultimate ghetto lottery for the trial lawyers and corrupt local and state governments


It was an absolutely massive windfall for attorneys on two levels:

1. The causation and compensation formulas were tailor made to benefit claimants with operating activity similar to your typical trial attorney. Basically, an attorney would likely qualify to receive a payout regardless of being impacted by the oil spill on any meaningful way.

2. Attorneys received huge commissions from preparing the claims even though sometimes their involvement was limited to signing a couple of forms and putting a stamp on an envelope.
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:14 pm to
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How quickly was Kip able to start GL1 which was a smaller plan? I don’t believe 2 or 3 years, but them I could be wrong.


Within a year. Over 20 projects were designed and under construction within 3-4 years. The master minds behind that plan that got it rolling are long gone and not even part of this MoveEBR.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Judge Parker


That drunken bastard almost single handedly turned a pretty good place to live into the shithole it is today. I hope he and his pickled liver are roasting in the flames down below.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76290 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:31 pm to
BR needs a loop and a new bridge. All else is a waste of time.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:32 pm to
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Why is this going to take 10 years??

Because Louisiana
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:33 pm to
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BR needs a loop and a new bridge. All else is a waste of time.

We don't even really need a full loop. We just need a bridge south of the city that connects back to I-10 and I-12.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48838 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Within a year. Over 20 projects were designed and under construction within 3-4 years. The master minds behind that plan that got it rolling are long gone and not even part of this MoveEBR.



Which is exactly what this plan is going to do.

Look at prioritization

There is a lot that has to happen prior to a dozer pushing around dirt. People seem to think a snap of the fingers and a road is built.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 12:39 pm
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:44 pm to
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We don't even really need a full loop. We just need a bridge south of the city that connects back to I-10 and I-12.


I guess that’d be a half loop. That’d work.
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5005 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:54 pm to
Looking briefly at your provided link, I have already found one typo. This should be a look into the future for anyone wondering how these projects are going to go.
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 12:59 pm to
Why should we have any confidence that our low IQ mayor and those she surrounds herself with can spend this money effectively or honestly?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Also, why the hell is $700,000,000 from an oil spill going to WBR Parish to connect LA-415 to LA-1?



cause its a good way to alleviate some of the congestion on the bridge.

or maybe that local politician actually did something while yours was sitting on his arse.

why don't you get more involved in the process rather than bitching about things after they happen?
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10482 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:13 pm to
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I said from the start movebr would turn into another slush fund. I was told over and over I was wrong and that “the funds were protected”.


What are you even talking about? All the projected revenue from the MoveBR tax is going to the list of projects on the MoveBR plan.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27093 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:19 pm to
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what the hell have politicians BEEN doing about the traffic situation for the past 10 years?



Hahahahahahhahahahahaha...hahahahahhaaha...I'm sorry, I can't stop laughing...hahahahha...long enough to...ahahahahah...answer your question...hahahaha. Phew.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27484 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:28 pm to
Dude, they have had better than 30 years to plan shite out. Are you suggesting we look at it a little longer...waste more time get more traffic and then determine the plans to be obsolete?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:31 pm to
God that stupid bitch and her need to buy sidewalks.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30571 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:36 pm to
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What are you even talking about? All the projected revenue from the MoveBR tax is going to the list of projects on the MoveBR plan.

Well they’re not going to just come out and say “$500k goes to mayor SWB, $100k to Gravy, $100k to Silky Slim, $50k to Helmet head, etc”. Funds will go to hand selected construction companies owned by friends of the major, studies will commission friends of the mayor, engineering and planning will go to whoever the mayor likes the most. And then the mayor and her friends will get kickbacks

The mayor gets a call from a car dealership owner saying “hey let me treat you to dinner to talk about current issues we are facing”. Dealer notices the mayor’s car and says “hey how about we get you a great deal on a new insert luxury car? Oh and by the way my brother is starting a new construction company and needs a big project to start with, maybe you could help him get a MoveBR project?”
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 1:36 pm to
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10 years of construction on I-10 in BR...can't wait!



I can say this with pure confidence.


"It'll never be ready in time"
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51584 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:03 pm to
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We don't even really need a full loop. We just need a bridge south of the city that connects back to I-10 and I-12.



When most talk about a BR loop, I think that's what they mean (I know it's what I mean). A northern loop wouldn't be bad but it would not do shite to address the traffic due to the population shift in Ascension, LSU traffic, most of the plant baw traffic nor anything related to the west side of the river (ie: Brusly-Plaquemine).
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