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re: A kid suffered a traumatic brain injury in a game at Traction this weekend?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:54 am to lsu777
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:54 am to lsu777
I'll say this IMO.
Kids are more advanced at earlier ages these days.
Bats are hotter.
Balls are hotter.
Kids possibly are throwing harder too on average bc of advancement.
Its all a bad combination for a kid's vulnerability on the mound.
Kids are more advanced at earlier ages these days.
Bats are hotter.
Balls are hotter.
Kids possibly are throwing harder too on average bc of advancement.
Its all a bad combination for a kid's vulnerability on the mound.
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:55 am to SouthEndzoneTiger
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In all youth sports (played outside of school), age is the determining factor as to what group you play in. The kid's grade level in school is a non factor. You could be an 18 year old sophomore in HS and you will not be playing in any youth organized sports.
Groups such as 2D allow for up to 2 exemptions for age to allow students to play with their grade level.
I know a team that has 2 11-year olds playing 10u baseball this year that are playing with kids in their grade.
There are exceptions.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:55 am to lsu777
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yea the twins with those bats was not fair
The twins with almost any bat is unfair. Kids can swing it.
Lucky for us, we play them this coming Sunday.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:57 am to Chad504boy
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Kids are more advanced at earlier ages these days.
100% truth
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Bats are hotter.
not more than late 90s
but over last 10 years, 100%
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Balls are hotter.
i dont think so.
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Kids possibly are throwing harder too on average bc of advancement.
100%
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Its all a bad combination for a kid's vulnerability on the mound.
which is why mound should go back but it will cause more arm injuries
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:58 am to 3HourTour
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The twins with almost any bat is unfair. Kids can swing it.
Lucky for us, we play them this coming Sunday.
yea they can we played yall couple times in the feb tournament by the way. I think you can figure it out from there which team.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:58 am to VolsOut4Harambe
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A guy in my model train group
Oh I didn't know you were autistic
Kidding, I also like obscure hobbies. I'm into fish tanks, tobacco pipes, and smoking meat.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:59 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Groups such as 2D allow for up to 2 exemptions for age to allow students to play with their grade level.
2d allows 3 as does usssa. pg allows 2 and is by far the strictest especially with national ID coming in next year
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:02 am to tigerskin
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2D rules allow you to have 3 kids that are 14 play in 13U
Who in the world thought these rules would be a good thing to do?
Another thing to take into consideration is the age cutoff date, which doesn't align with schools.
May 1st . Most school cutoff dates are August/September. I know you have to choose a date, but why not align with schools?
Basically you have 5/12 months worth of kids that can play a grade level down.
By rule you could have a kid that turns 16 on May 2nd, was held back, but still playing with 8th graders.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:05 am to Pintail
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Another thing to take into consideration is the age cutoff date, which doesn't align with schools.
May 1st . Most school cutoff dates are August/September. I know you have to choose a date, but why not align with schools?
Basically you have 5/12 months worth of kids that can play a grade level down.
By rule you could have a kid that turns 16 on May 2nd, was held back, but still playing with 8th graders.
no dont mess with that.
nobody sane person that understand the world wants their kid graduating at 17. move it back and you will have a bunch of kids not turning 18 until summer after they graduate
if you want to move it back any, move to june 1. other then that, leave it alone. its fine the kids are turning a year older at the end of the season and for most it aligns with their grade
and i am saying this as someone who's kids would absolutely benefit from them moving the date back to the same as little league, aug 31. but they dont need to do that.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:09 am to tigerskin
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Who in the world thought these rules would be a good thing to do?
its fine in most cases. you want the kids to play with classmates
but it has to be controlled.
thats why PG rule of Jan 1 works better.
or just do away with all grade exempts until 14u
to the poster talking about could turn 16 before end of season as of now in 14u...correct. but its 60/90 with bbcor...those kids are going to play hs ball starting right after the HS championships anyways so who cares. they literally will be playing that anyways
if you want to whine about grade exempts in 13u before bbcor and full size fields, thats fine. but once its full 60/90 fields and bbcor.....they need to be playing with kids 2-3 years older than them anyways. its not a safety issue at that point.
and in the end this should be about development anyways for HS not winning or whining about the older kid beat me.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:14 am to lsu777
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so i feel you, and honestly the caliber of players that are on your team and ours...it would be fine. but the problem is for 90% plus of the teams out there, yea that sucks all of the fun out the game and makes the games terribly slow. and doing that for a freak accident. at some point we cant legislate every risk out.
How would it make the game slow? Less hits/offense would speed up the game. Some of the hits I see on half swings would be easy line drive outs with a USA bat.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:16 am to lsu777
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and in the end this should be about development anyways for HS not winning or whining about the older kid beat me.
It isn't about "winning or whining about the older kid beat me. " My kids are long gone from playing. It is a safety issue, especially for the younger kids.
And you probably have your kids on PEDs anyway haha
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:17 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:17 am to Musashi
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How would it make the game slow? Less hits/offense would speed up the game. Some of the hits I see on half swings would be easy line drive outs with a USA bat.
by slow i mean as in action. less hits, for much of AA ball it would make the outfield pointless.
and yea the bloop throw the barrel out hits suck but is what it is
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:20 am to tigerskin
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It isn't about "winning or whining about the older kid beat me. " My kids are long gone from playing. It is a safety issue, especially for the younger kids.
thats why i said should be no grade exempts until 14u.
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And you probably have your kids on PEDs anyway haha
if steak and eggs are now considered a PED...well then im juicing them up like they are ronnie coleman. But why would i ever give my kids something that would close their growth plates....come on man. my kids are perfectly fine without any of that
but if you know a PED for older HS kids to make them stop being in their room, stop being lazy, and stop being so messy....im all ears.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:23 am to lsu777
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but it will cause more arm injuries
meh. kids are throwing it as hard as they can already. More of an aiming and release difference. and a lot of teams in 13u are already playing 60/90 half the year anyway. it starts teaching them real base pathing runnin at earlier age as well.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:24 am to lsu777
I agree. When it is backed up to 60/90 seems like the right time for that
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:27 am to lsu777
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by slow i mean as in action. less hits, for much of AA ball it would make the outfield pointless. and yea the bloop throw the barrel out hits suck but is what it is
I disagree, I sit through aa games every weekend and coached 11u/12u rec ball. Outfield was very relevant with USA bats at 12u and it’s a much higher level at AA ball. 10u and under maybe but I really think USA bats are the best option if bats really need to be changed. Not saying they do. These injuries have always been a part of baseball unfortunately, but I do think USA bats would be an easy fix, but so much money is tied into the youth bat industry. I doubt we see any changes.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:27 am to lsu777
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we played yall couple times in the feb tournament by the way. I think you can figure it out from there which team.
Well we played two teams twice in that tourney. So your kid is either on the team that beat the crap out of us or the team we beat the crap out of. I suspect it’s the team that beat the shite out of us
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:27 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:36 am to 3HourTour
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Well we played two teams twice in that tourney. So your kid is either on the team that beat the crap out of us or the team we beat the crap out of. I suspect it’s the team that beat the shite out of us
:rotflmao: correct, no disrespect to the boys from Brusly but pretty sure they werent hitting off the 330 fences
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:37 am to Chad504boy
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meh. kids are throwing it as hard as they can already. More of an aiming and release difference. and a lot of teams in 13u are already playing 60/90 half the year anyway. it starts teaching them real base pathing runnin at earlier age as well.
i mean we play it already but lots of arm inuries at 13 from the big move back. seen it this year alot. its a big jump. thats why i thing 54/80 for 12 majors and 60/90 off the jump for 13u majors is the way.
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