re: A kid suffered a traumatic brain injury in a game at Traction this weekend?

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Pretty good reccomendations you outlined there but i can tell you in Houston there isnt much difference in AAA and majors players sizes at 12u-14u. Many of the larger orgs in the area fill their AAA lineups with majors kids on sundays.

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we play over there enough that Im pretty familiar with it. and yea some kids are just big. but shouldnt be many teams filling their teams with majors kids, not allowed unless its an open tourney.

but if you make 12u aaa 50/70 with drop 8s its rarely an issue

if you make 13aaa 54/80 with bbcor, rarely an issue


but if you wanted to stop some of it, ban the use of composite bats but be ready because you will get sued by the bat manufacturers.

the better thing to do too would be to fricking start requiring something to enforce the actual certifications instead of corrupt arse USSSA approving every single bat that the manufacture ponys up the cash for.

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Any updates on the kid? How’s he doing?

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brain bleed stabilized, released from hospital and is at home. will have to finish school year at home. hopefully next spring he is back on the playing field. Will need lots and lots of prayers.

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Absolutely freightening. The tournanent orgs should take a hard look at these things, but they don't GAF about anything but money. PG is the worst. They had a chance to ban a certain bat last year after a kid nearly got killed but then quickly reinstated it due to money and relationship with the bat company.

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huh? they banned the bats in 12u. still have all drop 5 bats banned.

that is not why they kind of changed the rule...they were threatened with a huge lawsuit by the manufactures because Easton proved it met the USSSA spec of 1.15, same as the others they were allowing

So pg actually did the right thing and banned all drop 5 bats from 12u.


and as I said...yall are getting pissed about something that is happening 0.01% of the time if that. yes as a parent of a pitcher it scares the ever living frick out of me. but i also see the other kids...99% could never handle some of the recs in this thread

i would be fine with everyone swinging wood or alloy only or bbcor 12u majors and up as it would only help my kids, but i look around and I watch enough games that I realize that wouldnt make 99% of the players below the majors level better.

our kids are the same age, we have seen 85+ this season on the mound, hell Nims hit 90, which is insane for a 13u kid to throw that. seen 105+ off the bat multiple times, including it happening at PBR cup with trackman multiple times 2 weeks ago. If you want to make those kids swing bbcor....cool but understand that only the top 2-5% of kids can handle that and it still look like a real baseball game

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2D rules allow you to have 3 kids that are 14 play in 13U

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Who in the world thought these rules would be a good thing to do?

This thread takes me back. One of my son's favorite memories playing ball years back was hitting a triple against Tre Morgan in 10u wooden bat tournament. Yes, Tre was throwing smoke and I can't imagine him being even a year older than that up on the mound at that age. Both the pitcher and hitters had very little reaction time as it was if a top pitcher was on mound or top hitter in the box. This apparently new rule is crazy

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There was always a joke about kids being held back just to play baseball. What a fricked up culture.

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im all for kids being held back but thats just because i believe graduating older helps boys but at a minimum everyone should have Perfect games rule of cant be more than 4 months older than the cut off date.

Also PG will be 100% National Sports ID age verified next year. right now only the big majors tournaments are. Problem with that is, its another fee for parents to pay but at least its 100% age verified. no having to put up a 100 and protest to get the director to pull a birth certificate on file


honestly there needs to be no grade exempts until 14u where its 60/90 bbcor across the board and you play your grade. if that means playing 14u twice....thats ok.

and if the ncaa passes the rule about 5 to play 5 as soon as you graduate or when you turn 19....that will stop all grade hold backs with any kid born before march or earliest Feb because any earlier would have them turning 24 before start of college season so they would lose the last year.

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I agree. But we can reduce the risk. USA bats are used in every level of our Ascension Little League. Minors and majors. Of course the games are not as entertaining, but kids are still driving balls to gaps.

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your kid can, my kid can....the bottom half of AAA and AA ball...90% of the kids wouldnt be able to get it out the infield just like in LL

USSSA bats were fine until the last 3-4 years when USSSA started approving every bat that was submitted so long as the 50k+ fee was paid. only exception has been the tank 3 as other manufactures threatened lawsuit as it was essentially the damn black emerald

but i mean we played all last year, yall too, against kids swinging the black emerald drop 8 which is hitter than any drop 5, and at closer distance and there was not issue until pelicans coaches got mad because they didnt like getting beat and had them banned.

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hat was wild. Saw a team hit 8 bombs in one game in Broussard with it. A kid would hit and just drop the bat at the plate for the next hitter to use.

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nationals or traction?

it all started because nationals went to mobile and got hammered with them. so they got them. then saints got mad because nationals hammered them with it, so they got it. then we got mad because it both of them did it to us so we got them lol. then us and nationals on the same night did it to the pelicans. one in broussard other in BR at oak villa and Trey started yelling at our coach that those bats would be banned by noon monday. well with the brothers being with marucci and them being the sponsor of select series...yea thats exactly what happened

honestly it needed too but you couldnt go into the game with a knife while the other team had machine guns either.

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Nats

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yea the twins with those bats was not fair