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re: A kid suffered a traumatic brain injury in a game at Traction this weekend?

Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:36 am to
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:36 am to
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50 feet mound distances


54 feet. But your point remains. You’re 100% correct.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:38 am to
I know 13u is 54 feet. I said 12u also needs to ban the bazooka bats... 12u is even more dangerous at 50 feet.

What people who don't have kids playing fail to understand is some of these "13 year olds" are well over 6 feet tall and 185-220lbs
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:40 am to
Yep. There’s some grown arse men playing 13u ball.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:43 am to
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Tiger Ryno


Time for these leagues to step up and move toward use of wood bats.
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:44 am to
My son is a teammate of the kid who was hit on Sunday. It’s been a rough week to say the least. It all happened so quickly. He had no chance of stopping that ball or getting out of the way. And I’d be lying if I didn’t say I’m terrified of the next time my son takes the mound.
Posted by 4LSU2
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:45 am to
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Money goes so far but what the family doesn't yet realize that they need is long term emotional support.


Correct! My mother suffered a TBI back in 2008 from walking in her neighborhood and being run over by a drunk driver. We spent her 50th birthday with her at Touro New Orleans inpatient rehab where she had no clue how to brush her teeth, did not remember her name, etc. It was god awful to experience to say the least. The long-term effects are still there, but she has made an incredible recovery and has been able to see all of her 4 grandchildren born, keeps up with their activities, etc.
Posted by LSUweights
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:46 am to
We were at Traction when this occurred.
However, I did not see anything because we were a few fields away.
Saw firefighters and ambulance show up.

Prayers to the kid and family
Glad he is home and in recovery and hope he comes out ok.

This was a 2D tournament
2D rules allow you to have 3 kids that are 14 play in 13U
However, the 14 year olds who register with the 13U team cannot turn 15 before May 1, 2026.

You can also sub in players from other teams that are 13 and 14U, but they must meet 2 certain criteria
1. They cannot turn 15 before May 1, 2026
2. They cannot play down. This is meaning if the 13U team is AA, the 14 year old kids can only play if their original team is a AA team. They cannot play on a 14U AAA or Pro team and play down on a AA team.

I know these rules well because every tournament we are in, we normally find a team trying to cheat these rules in order to win.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 8:01 am
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:46 am to
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Time for these leagues to step up and move toward use of wood bats.


I put a post on Facebook Tuesday morning regarding the bats that sort of went viral. I’ve even had news outlets reach out about the situation. Hopefully some changes are on the horizon.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:48 am to
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3HourTour


Real good that a couple of LSU players (Schmidt and Ruckert, I believe) took time out of their busy schedules to visit that kid and his family.
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:48 am to
Yes that was really cool. He’s also received video messages from Josh Smith and Paul Mainieri.
Posted by Pintail
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:51 am to
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Especially for a 14 year old who was playing down in 13U because he was held back in school.


Not how this works.gif


No this is exactly how it works.

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13U Division

Players who turn 14 prior to May 1st of the current season are not eligible unless they are in the 7th grade. Also, any player turning 15 prior to May 1st will not be eligible. Players who are 13u are eligible for this division regardless of their grade.
14U Division

Players who turn 15 prior to May 1st of the current season are not eligible unless they are in the 8th grade. Also, any player turning 16 prior to May 1st will not be eligible. Players who are 14u are eligible for this division regardless of their grade.
Grade Exemption
2025 Season

3 grade exempt players allowed 6-13u
14u: no grade exempt rules (All 8th grade players eligible)
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:55 am to
To echo others. I think there should be a weight limit for the player on the abt they can use. Age is irrelevant

I see some 125 lb monsters in 10u using -10 USSSA bats on a 46 foot mount which is just as insane as a -5 for a 150lb 13 year old on their 50 foot mound

It’s dangerous and they don’t need that bat advantage
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:56 am to
Absolutely freightening. The tournanent orgs should take a hard look at these things, but they don't GAF about anything but money. PG is the worst. They had a chance to ban a certain bat last year after a kid nearly got killed but then quickly reinstated it due to money and relationship with the bat company.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 7:57 am
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:57 am to
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In all youth sports (played outside of school), age is the determining factor as to what group you play in. The kid's grade level in school is a non factor. You could be an 18 year old sophomore in HS and you will not be playing in any youth organized sports.
You are 1,000% incorrect

For travel baseball, each team gets two age exemptions for held back players. So exactly as he said, a 14 year old can play in 13u if he was held back a grade. Each team gets two of those minimum. Some leagues allow unlimited age exemptions


so everyone understands, each org is a little different


2D Baseball(this is the org traction was playing in at time of incident) and USSSA

May 1 cutoff date for birthdate, allow 3 grade exempts per team and the can not be born before May 1 of the previous year(turn 15 before may1



Perfect game-

may 1 cutoff date, 2 grade exempts allowed but can not be born before jan 1 of that year so max 4 months older



IMO this is what needs to happen across the board

12U majors- needs to move to 54/80 and drop 5 bats should be allowed and mandatory

13u Majors- 54/80 with bbcor in the fall
13u majors- 60/90 with bbcor in spring
13u AAA- 54/80 with bbcor
13AA- 54/80 with drop 5 allowed

14u- 60/90 bbcor for all groups


no grade exempts until 14u then everyone that is in 8th grade plays 14u



but i dont think the grade exempts are a huge problem for the most part. its the distance and the bats. but the biggest problem is, at least in 2D and in the select series is continuing to force AAA teams to play true majors teams and the bigger kids.

Continue to have kids not ready for that level of competition, especially at 12-14 and have them out there with kids that are much bigger and hit much harder. just my opinion being in this for a long time now.


prayers for drew though. glad to see the brain bleed stabilized and he was released.

This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 8:03 am
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:58 am to
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Time for these leagues to step up and move toward use of wood bats.


no thats dumb. not affordable for 90% of players


and honestly even at majors level, only top 20% of teams can handle wood.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:59 am to
We have a 112lb kid on our 9u team. He hit one 240 plus feet in the trees the other week

He will kill a kid if he sends it back to the mound at 46 feet

The fact he will still be using a -10 next season against a pitcher 46 feet away is terrifying
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 8:01 am
Posted by 3HourTour
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:02 am to
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Time for these leagues to step up and move toward use of wood bats. no thats dumb. not affordable for 90% of players


Just go to USA bats. Lower BPF. Balls won’t come off the bat nearly as hot. Is there a chance of pitchers still getting hit? Of course. But the chances of a pitcher stopping the ball or getting out of the way are increased.

At 13U and up, BBCOR should be mandatory.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:06 am to
Pretty good reccomendations you outlined there but i can tell you in Houston there isnt much difference in AAA and majors players sizes at 12u-14u. Many of the larger orgs in the area fill their AAA lineups with majors kids on sundays.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:08 am to
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We have a 112lb kid on our 9u team. He hit one 240 plus feet in the trees the other week

He will kill a kid if he sends it back to the mound at 46 feet

The fact he will still be using a -10 next season against a pitcher 46 feet away is terrifying


thing is though, 99% of kids at 9/10 can barely swing the drop 10s.

at some point us as parents have to realize there is a risk and the rules cant take it all out

and i say that as someone who has one the same as the kid in op and has played him and one in the age group you spoke about.


its hard but we have to realize that.

and having seen the drop 5 for two years in 2d...yea they are hot but at the same time..its really only makes the game sim the real thing.

I dont see a huge problem with the bats. they are no hotter than they were when i played in late 90s, the biggest problem is you have the 12u majors kids playing at 50' still and the 13u majors kids playing 54


but then if you move them back, you run the risk of more arm injuries even if not throwing a ton. so its a damned if you do, damned if you dont.

but understand there are 100s of games played every weekend and this is a very rare event. It scares the frick out of me as mine pitch but unfortunately its a risk when they play sports. scares the frick out of me though
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:11 am to
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Just go to USA bats. Lower BPF. Balls won’t come off the bat nearly as hot. Is there a chance of pitchers still getting hit? Of course. But the chances of a pitcher stopping the ball or getting out of the way are increased.



so i feel you, and honestly the caliber of players that are on your team and ours...it would be fine. but the problem is for 90% plus of the teams out there, yea that sucks all of the fun out the game and makes the games terribly slow. and doing that for a freak accident. at some point we cant legislate every risk out.
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